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    This was likely removed by /r/worldnews mods rather than reddit. They have policy of removing everything that doesn’t follow their rules no matter how many upvotes it has

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    This guy is creating new accounts every day to post his news page…last time he was /u/theanon

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      I still can’t get past the batshit insane mission statement pinned on the main tiblur account

      The Purpose of Tiblur

      Hi everyone, I’m going to be making some videos about what’s really going on the world. There’s an underlying purpose of Tiblur. My goal is to unite the world to end the suffering of people on this planet. There is an ongoing alien invasion of this planet. I’m not even being ironic. It’s literally happening and I want to share my story as to how tiblur is involved. There will be a lot more posters on here in the coming months if I survive and we are able to adapt to hackers, The CIA, and onslaught from the media. Remember tiblur is meant to be free so everyone can have fun without degeneracy. I’ve trained the jannies to spot degeneracy. Since Apple rejected us we are going to allow a lot of freedom on this app so the truth is out there. If you are spiritual please help us end the alien invasion of our planet child genocide, child trafficking and disease/damage to people worldwide. A great song that comes to mind is the Michael Jackson song heal the world. If someone has it please post it. Thank You!

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      Fortunately, there’s a modlog for communities here in Lemmy.

      Looking at it (currently the third in the list for removed posts), an admin removed it with the reason of “bad news source”. Not saying whether or not it’s justified though, but at least we would know who to blame and why.

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        also it’s federated, so not exactly “censored” because it’s up on other instances

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          Hmm, yeah, there’s that too, but unless you know the URL to use to access it from a different instance, it might be a bit hard (to access), isn’t it?

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        Before the mass migration there was a bunch of crazy extremists using the fediverse.

        When “normal” instances started getting popular, those people made communities on there and now they’re the top mods of communities on lots of instances.

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        and it is, it was removed by the lemmy.world, not from the fediverse, you are on their instance, it’s their rule, go to other instance with less strict rules

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        It’s not and never claimed to be. Lemmy is a piece of software, the instance owners and community moderators choose what stays and what’s goes, every Lemmy instance is just a glorified forum of old internet. Federation means the post isn’t solely controlled by the instance owners, but deletion is federated so the instance deleting it sends notice to every other instance where it exists to delete it as well, and then it’s up to that instance to do it (tho Lemmy will do this automatically so it would require altering the server code to stop that)

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        I heard twitter X was the true bastion of free speech. Maybe try there?

        The satellite loss is expected and has been discussed pretty thoroughly already. The larger story, to me, is that that the whole starlink project is haemorrhaging money and it’s still being subsidized by taxpayer money, with little likelihood of ever turning a profit.

        Edit: why am I being downvoted, lol?

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          Somewhere Bill Gates is a happy man watching Elon repeat his past mistakes with Teledesic

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          I like how you’re downvoted for speaking about the actual issue.

          300 low earth orbit satellites that were designed to be temporary out of a fleet of 5000.

          But “private company, operated by billionaire who opposes raising taxes on his bracket, wants YOUR tax money to keep his business afloat”. How’s that for clickbait, lol

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        I thought Lemmy was supposed to be the best free speech alternative

        I don’t think there’s any useful definition of a “good” free speech website. Because everyone’s going to disagree on the criteria of what makes one good. Myself, I like more moderation, but I like that moderation to be held accountable in an attempt to keep the moderation higher quality and honest. Some people see free speech as no moderation, total anarchy, and I hate that, I’ve seen some websites that tried that, it turned into hate speech and revenge porn and other terrible things very quickly.

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          Some people see free speech as no moderation, total anarchy, and I hate that, I’ve seen some websites that tried that, it turned into hate speech and revenge porn and other terrible things very quickly.

          I have yet to find a single website where that hasn’t happened within a year or so, unless they manage to stay very small and out of the public eye.

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            The difference is in the response once the people in charge of the site are made aware of the content. Someone striking while mods are asleep isn’t the same as running Kiwi Farms.

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        Lemmy isn’t just “one thing”. Every instance has its own rules and standards. Lemmy itself has zero policy with regards to free speech, for or against. Nor does the Fediverse as a whole.

        You can start your own Lemmy instance and have all the free speech you want.

        As has been pointed out previously, this isn’t about censorship. It’s about low quality posting. Even if the information is completely valid your post to Reddit violated the sub rules and your low effort conspiracy postings on Lemmy serve no value.

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    So what’s the suggestion here? What is reddit gaining from supporting Musk in this… we know that Ferretface Boy loves Elon but would he really go as far as making admins for /worldnews delete things?

    With how overzealous mods on reddit can be about enforcing posting rules, it’s just as likely the story had already been posted a gazillion times and they removed all but the first link (I’ve seen this happen a few times and people were pissed because the initial post didn’t get as many upvotes / interaction)

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      Yeah or it wasn’t deleted at all? I mean stories come and go from the front page all the time. That’s how the algorithm works. Is there any real evidence it was even deleted? This one seems far fetched. I doubt Reddit gives a shit about Elon Musk, there are constantly far more negative stories than this one you can find there.

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    Reddit post is marked as “Not News” and I tend to agree. There’s nothing nefarious here, just lifecycle End of Life on the satellites.

    I mod a politics group here and if it were posted there, I’d remove it as “not politics”. Same deal.

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    Because it’s a bogus story. It’s like saying that the leaves fell from a tree or water evaporated from a lake. The satellites are deorbiting because that’s what they are designed to do, rather than hanging around as space trash for hundreds of years.

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      So they just become ocean trash instead? Seems like we should put a stop to that as well.

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      Right, and the first Starlink launch was in 2019. So, at absolute maximum, these satellites have a total lifespan of 4 years, if the ones coming down now are the very first ones ever launched into orbit.

      That’s, if you’ll excuse my language, fucking abysmal. This is what’s supposed to bring reliable internet access to the distant corners of the globe? A constellation of million dollar satellites that crumble into dust on re-entry every four years? Maintaining this, and God forbid scaling it up to actually serve a majority of the world population, would be a stupendous and recurring waste of money, materials, and labor. Elon has a stable full of actual rocket scientists over at SpaceX, fucking use them. Max lifespan of four years for a “permanent” satellite constellation is actually laughable. The ISS has been in stable orbit since 1998. DIRECTV had better satellite longevity than Starlink.

      By all means, design them to deorbit so that when humanity cooks itself off the face of the planet next century we aren’t left with 300,000 starlink satellites trashing up our cosmic lawn for eternity. But maybe design them to deorbit later. At this rate we’ll be turning a percent of the world’s GDP into literal smoke each year as a fifth of the Starlink constellation rains down over the plains of Africa.

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        It’s a balance between latency (altitude), launch weight (more satellite fuel), and number of satellites (coverage area). Would you rather have less satellites and less coverage or more satellites that have a lower lifespan?

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          I would rather America just build infrastructure instead of polluting the entire planets night skies with wasteful launches of infinite cell towers into very low orbit

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            A few tens of thousands of pieces of infrastructure in space to serve the world, or hundreds of thousands of miles of infrastructure covering the land, to serve one country

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        Believe it or not, but the engineers over there did probably actually think about this. Starlink isn’t competing with other providers that are at higher orbits such as Geostationary. They are deliberately placed lower for lower cost and transmission delay. When going from LEO to GEO, the limits of the speed of light make a tangible difference in latency between the satellite and the ground. In addition, the orders of magnitude lower cost to deliver to the lower orbit allows them to send many many more satellites, which increases throughout enough to make satellite internet actually usable for high bandwidth tasks.

        Individual Starlink satellites are not permanent. You can argue whether it makes sense to constantly have to replace satellites in order to get more speed and lower latency, but that has nothing at all to do with some sort of engineering mistake. Comparing the longevity of Starlink satellites to satellite television, GPS, ISS, etc. is like comparing fuel mileage between a Prius and the Saturn V Crawler-transporter. They are in no means competing on this factor.

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          To your point, geostationary satellites are in orbits around 22,300 miles away while Starlink is in a LEO orbit ~342 miles away. At the speed of light, that’s an additional quarter second round trip time minimum. Absolutely forever in internet speeds. My experience with GEO is a latency >550ms round trip. With the TCP/IP protocol built the way it is (aka, three-way handshake), a webpage wouldn’t even start downloading until almost 2 seconds have passed.

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    It was probably just cause the OP didn’t comment the word “cockleburrs” into the thread within 30 minutes of posting, which as you all know is an egregious violation of rule #15.

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    damn, its so strange that a rich guy was able to throw thousands of satellites into space, in a manner that completely changes humanity’s relationship to the cosmos, without any meaningful form of public debate or discussion.

    even more strange when you consider that the owner of the company is one of the most talked about people on the planet. i wonder how he’s able to keep getting away with it.

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      without any meaningful form of public debate or discussion

      They submitted everything required to the relevant government agencies for approval. Whether these organizations considered any public comments, or ignored them, is a different matter unfortunately.

      Starlink also is not the first or only company to get approval for a massive LEO satellite network with thousands of units in orbit. Just some of the 1000+ satellite constellations in the works currently: OneWeb (UK), Amazon’s Project Kuiper (US), Astra (US), Lynk Global (US), Boeing V-band (US), Telesat Lightspeed (Canada), Spin Launch (UK), Globalstar (Germany), Hughes HVNET (US), Hanwha (South Korea), Guangwang (China), and Galaxy Space Yinhe (China). Starlink is just the one you hear about most because of who the owner is.

      Oh and if you’re worried about the number of satellites in these mega constellations… you probably shouldn’t look up E-SPACE… they have registered over 400,000+ in multiple constellations (Semaphore-C and Cinnamon-217/Cinnamon-937).

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        it’s almost like all these different regulatory bodies you mentioned don’t serve the people, but instead the wealthy

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        Im fascinated that an army of musk defenders deploys every time this topic comes up. All with the same talking points. Always with wayyyyy too much info and expertise on the subject almost copy/pasted. Typically their entire comment history is deleted like yours as well and when called out they swarm the accuser ususally smearing them as a conspiracy nutter. Same thing happens when you mention monsanto, fracking, and nuclear power.

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          For what its worth, I can see their comment history and it doesn’t appear to be deleted or entirely in this thread either.

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          Typically their entire comment history is deleted like yours

          That doesn’t seem to be the case. Can you respond to the actual post?

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        While you’re not wrong about there being other constellations in the works, Starlink is the first to actually launch more than a (relative) few. Over 50% of satellites in orbit, total, belong to Starlink.

        So while there are other projects planned or under construction, Starlink is the most visible by far, and that’s a lot of why we hear about it the most.

        Also yeah, it’s owned by Elon Musk, so that alone guarantees it’ll stay in the news.