Oh. Nothing to see here. Israel has a right this defend itself from terrorists.
Pretty sure sarcasm, but unfortunately I feel like this comment could easily be made seriously.
Well bush and biden and all of the Israeli lobby wishes to capitalize on the 40 babies story as genocide so take of it what you wish.
Are they too stupid to realize they are giving Hamas exactly what they want? This does nothing to further Israel’s security, and in fact probably creates more terrorists. I can only conclude that is in fact also exactly what the government of Israel wants too. Fuck.
The IDF claims this was caused by a mid-fire of Hamas rockets. Both sides have provided the exact same amount of evidence, zero. Maybe wait before hoping back on the anti-Israel bandwagon.
Personally I’d wait for a while, because at this moment Hamas claims Israel attacked a hospital and Israel claims Hamas had a failed rocket launch that destroyed a hospital. Both are plausible, and I haven’t seen any confirmation of either variant from a 3rd party so far (might have missed something though).
If it is Israel, it’s a huge fuck up.
edit: A video supposedly taken from Al Jazeera Arabic livestream seems to most clearly show the supposed rocket misfiring, and it looks pretty damning. If that’s real, I hope the media who immediately called it Israel’s fault based on just the word of Hamas get called out, but I’m not holding my breath yet - the situation is a clusterfuck and there is definitely a lot of disinformation being spread.
Look at the time stamp of the video. It’s a half hour before the hospital was hit.
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Hamas was created by Israel to snuff out it’s competition like the PLO. The Israeli far right and Hamas are in symbiosis
If they instigate war, they open up their ability to land grab afterwards. They know they’ll win any conflict with Palestine; they don’t care about the lives on either side.
Gauging the mental state of the population to see how much force is needed is pretty difficult. See here:
Of course, blowing up hospitals is never good.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
A spokesman for the ministry said in a statement: “Initial estimates indicate that between 200 and 300 martyrs were killed in the bombing that targeted Baptist Hospital in Gaza city.”
The militant group said: "The horrific massacre carried out by the Zionist occupation in the Gaza City’s Al-Ahly Hospital which left hundreds of casualties, most of them displaced families, patients, children and women, is a crime of genocide that once again reveals the ugly face of this criminal enemy and its fascist and terrorist government.
The explosion follows local reports of deaths and injuries at the al Ahli Arab Baptist Hospital, in northern Gaza.
The Anglican-run hospital was hit by Israeli rocket fire on 14 October leaving four members of staff wounded, according to a statement from Archbishop of Canterbury Justin Welby.
Earlier, Israel’s military said more civilian deaths in the territory were “inevitable”, claiming that Hamas fighters were using Palestinians as cover.
More than one million Palestinians were warned to move south through Gaza at the weekend by the IDF, ahead of an expected ground invasion.
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I’m not convinced one way or another about where the rocket came from, but I found this quote in an AP story while looking into it:
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu sought to put the blame on Hamas for Israel’s retaliatory attacks and the rising civilian casualties in Gaza. “Not only is it targeting and murdering civilians with unprecedented savagery, it’s hiding behind civilians,” he said.
That’s some big “babe, why you gotta make me hit you?” energy right there.
Maybe Hamas should stop storing their munitions in hospitals. Just sayin’.
It’s really easy to claim that’s what they’re doing. Got any evidence?
Any even if it were true, how many civilians is it OK to murder for the sake of taking out some weapons?
Does anybody have any idea how to evaluate Israel’s claim that it wasn’t them, that it was a Palestinian rocket towards Israel which went wrong and hit the hospital?
Other than just assuming that whatever side you don’t like is lying?
I honestly don’t have a heuristic to evaluate that other than “the side I trust less must be lying about it”
And I’d like a better way to find out the truth than that
Israel also claimed Hamas beheaded 40 people and they were exposed for their lie, Israel is lying, they bombed the hospital.
Are you surprised that the state that shamelessly announced it has cut off food, water, and electricity on 2.5 million people, of which more than 1 million are children, has bombed a hospital? 9 days without a drop of water. The state that bombed the corridors of international humanitarian aid?
There’s many videos posted on telegram and Twitter comparing the sound of the missile from footage with the sound from US made JDAM missile.
There’s many videos posted on telegram and Twitter comparing the sound of the missile from footage with the sound from US made JDAM missile.
JDAMs are guided bombs, not missiles or rockets.
The only way to confirm is to find search the wreckage.
The remains would tell you what hit the hospital.
The Anglican community and Anglican owners of the hospital and Doctors without Borders operating in Gaza have denied Israel’s claim. They reiterated that it was an Israeli attack on the hospital
Does that help? As an appeal to authority, I’m not convinced. Anglicans aren’t known for much more than constant infighting, definitely not for missile strike origin identification.
That could be something. Give they any reason, point to any evidence? I’d like to see how they come to their conclusion.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Shifa_Hospital
Please check this first.
This is not that hospital.
Can we finally fucking admit that Israel is commiting genocide?
Hamas put their headquarters in the hospital. That’s on hamas bro.
Got any proof for that? Sounds like some rehashed bullshit from the last time Israel bombed hospitals, schools, etc.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Shifa_Hospital
Check it. Like it sucks but…
That is a different hospital. The hospital that was bombed was al-Alhi according to AP News.
It is managed by the Episcopal Church.
Reasonable people came to that conclusion 30+ years ago.
Fuck Bibi. Fuck Hamas. Fuck the fucking fuckers, wherever they may fuck.
Every reasonable person must admit that. Just like every reasonable person must codemn Hamas terrorism. But people like picking teams, and appearently that makes doing both very hard.
The IDF claims this was caused by a mid-fire of Hamas rockets. Both sides have provided the exact same amount of evidence, zero. Maybe wait before hoping back on the anti-Israel bandwagon.
That’s not the headline though
“500 hamas militants*”
“B-but most of them were children, elderly, and the infirm…”
“Yap, that’s radicalism for ya.”
In all honesty, the last three I backed over with my car. Luckily, they turned out to be Hamas Militants.
ahem
WAR CRIME!!!
Israel: Charge us, then…
…alright, carrying on.
If Israel did that, and don’t see what motive Hamas would have, then Netanyahu should be arrested if he sets foot in the EU.
The counterclaim is that it was a failed rocket launch. You don’t exactly need a motive for that.
