• Senior Hamas official Ali Barakeh says the group did not anticipate the scale of U.S. involvement in support of Israel.
  • The U.S. moved a carrier strike group closer to Israel and considered sending a second aircraft carrier, fighter jets, and munitions.
  • U.S. Lt.-Gen. James Glynn was sent to help Israel plan its ground offensive into Gaza.
  • Iran-backed militias have targeted U.S. forces in the region in response to U.S. support for Israel.

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    how

    how does one not expect this

    who the fuck is in charge of Hamas’s foreign affairs reports

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        They’re a terror organisation in the West. They’re a national liberation movement in the rest of the world.

        Edit: they are literally called the Islamic resistance movement.

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      I wonder how Ukraine factored into the calculus. Normally yeah, you should expect this. But maybe there was doubt of funding and supporting both Ukraine and Israel concurrently.

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        It’s possible they also thought that half of our political system willfully shitting the bed was going to slow things down a bit, but they didn’t account for how much that same half of our political system absolutely loves killing brown people.

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      An Iranian informant who gets intel from Russia most likely. Not gonna make excuses for them, but they’re clearly being played by Iran, and Iran got the flare up it wanted. The US is already retaliating on Iran so I’d imagine there’s some credence that Iran was deeply involved.

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      Same mistake Bin Laden made. He thought 9/11 would open Americans eyes to its imperialism and rise up against their government or some stupid shit like that. They always underestimate how much Americans love solving issues by throwing bombs at them.

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        No, Bin Laden believed the US was a fallen and sinful nation, and that our reaction would isolate us from our allies in the Arab World. He wasn’t an anti-imperialist, he was just a religious fanatic who was assmad that the Saudis cozied up with US infidels.

        He was only accidentally correct, for that matter. Our initial reaction against Afghanistan did not isolate us from our allies in the Arab World. The later, unrelated invasion of Iraq did.

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        Kickin’ Ass!

        Kickin’ Ass is what we do!

        Kickin’ Ass!

        The iron foot in the velvet shoe.

        We don’t care whose ass we kick;

        if we’re ever all alone

        we’ll just stand in front of the mirror

        and try and kick our own.

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    So lets put it all in perspective. Some established facts first:

    • Russia is pretty open with it’s declaration of love to HAMAS
    • Iran really wants to “give it” to US
    • Russia is sanctioned and desperate in it’s war with Ukraine, hoping biggest weapon supplier would stop supplying weapons
    • Russia is best buddies with Iran
    • Iran wants nukes
    • Russia used to be buddies with Israel (esp. military-wise, which was cited as one of the reasons no military assistance to Ukraine came from Israel)
    • Israel has it’s internal political problems.
    • all the nations that now so keenly support Palestine and violence towards Israel never sent any significant investments or humanitarian aid to Palestine to beat Israel economically
    • Israel was behaving as an a-hole towards Palestine for quite some time
    • HAMAS has not moved Israel-Palestine relationship an inch and needs to show some activity

    So, to me all of the above kind of adds up to: Palestine was used by everybody else to achieve goals absolutely unrelated to Palestine survival or prosperity.

    If I were to make up a conspiracy theory, I’d say: Russia needed diversion real bad, they talked to their Iran buddies to stir dhit up in Gaza. Mossad snifs it out and does… nothing, opening door to unspeakable acts that followed, but also giving a pretext for “outrage” and rallying the nation against existential threat. Arab world leaders quickly jump on a familiar train of antisrmitism boosting their ratings locally and doing diddly squat to help Palestine (I mean help, not entrench them further in conflict)

    In sum: both sides were comfortable sacrificing their own people (without people’s consent) to achieve political goals.

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    The attacks were idiotic at their core, what would anyone expect more than idiotic plans and expectations?

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    Fucking geniuses these extremist zealots. It’s like a requirement for these Jihad terrorists groups that you need to be missing half your brain capacity to join the club.

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    This is totally on Hamas. “Involvement” is what we DO, especially when Israel is involved. As far as the Pentagon is concerned, they might as well be a member of NATO.

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    The Gaza invasion will be very dirty urban combat, and urban combat always involves heavy losses on both sides. I highly doubt the US is willing to send men to their deaths for this cause so I’m sceptical to what extent the US will be able to help. And as Palestine doesn’t have an air force or navy I don’t suspect Israel needs help on those fronts.