The media in the US exists to make money, not to spread truth.
Why would they kill their golden goose?
No.
Corporations exist to make money.
Media exists to entertain and inform.
Most media is owned by corporations.
Don’t forget, corporations are people now!
Gee whiz thanks Citizens United!
So… yes.
I don’t think people would believe the media even if it tried.
Jon Stewart isnt Republican but Republican voters fully understand and agree with many of his viewpoints.
It is possible to have reasonable conversations and discussions with people regardless of their political views.
The question becomes what does the Democratic Party have to do enough to convince people to trust and vote for them ?
A simple example would be the multiple rigging of the Democratic nominee against Bernie Sanders, while RNC does exactly the same kinds of rigging, DNC tried to make themselves seem holier-than-thou and did the exact same things as the RNC.
Guess why so many voters don’t truly believe in elections and “hate”-vote for Drumpf ???
Have good policies and reasonable expectations while keeping almost as many election campaign promises as possible. RNC delivered on their promises by strutting out strawman shit like “Build-the-Wall” … their real purpose was to defund the support networks for immigrants.
Where is the Dream-Act that guarantees citizenship after Military service ??? If the DNC can’t even do their most basic levels of campaign promises, everything sucks and Drumpf wins.
“Evil triumphs when good men do nothing”
When you explain policy to Republican voters that includes education spending, healthcare spending, environmental protections, and supporting Veterans, most Republican voters agree that those are all good things, even though they’re the opposite of what Republican policy prescribes.
What I’m trying to say is most people who vote R have no business voting R because they don’t grasp basic political theory.
Jon Stewart may get some Republicans to agree to points, but it hasn’t changed the Republican Party. If anything, the party has gotten worse.
And if you are going to bring up Bernie Sanders, Bernie has said good things about Joe Biden and endorsed Joe back in April. Other progressive Democrats have also endorced Biden now.
And if you are going to compare the Dream Act to building a wall, there are different voting procedures in spending money versus other laws. And I can’t expect a party to do everything on their platform; it is historically rare to get perfection.
From the point of view of media people that are a bit more disconnected from the situation (analysts for Radio-Canada), medias don’t know how to cover Trump and they never managed to find a way to cover him to convey the impact of what he does in part because he just overloads them with things to cover, there’s never any time to take the time with him.
I think distance and all the schadenfreude lately makes it easy to forget. This is accurate and every time something bad would happen in the news cycle, he would boast something to his followers and just rapid fire say quick ridiculous shit that he knows he has no intention of following through, just to move the focus off what he doesn’t want us paying attention to.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
The poll, of course, is only one snapshot and it has been criticized, but it still tells a cautionary tale – especially when paired with the certainty that Trump, if elected, will quickly move toward making the United States an authoritarian regime.
Almost as troubling, two New York Times stories outlined Trump’s autocratic plans to put loyal lawyers in key posts and limit the independence of federal agencies.
Here’s what must be hammered home: Trump cannot be re-elected if you want the United States to be a place where elections decide outcomes, where voting rights matter, and where politicians don’t baselessly prosecute their adversaries.
“Women don’t want to die for Mike Johnson’s religious beliefs,” as Vanity Fair’s Molly Jong-Fast said on MSNBC, referring to the theocratic House speaker.
The Guardian’s David Smith laid out the contrast: “Since Biden took office the US economy has added a record 14m jobs while his list of legislative accomplishments has earned comparisons with those of Franklin Roosevelt and Lyndon Johnson … Trump, meanwhile, is facing 91 criminal indictments in Atlanta, Miami, New York and Washington DC, some of which relate to an attempt to overthrow the US government.”
Pin down Republicans about whether they support Trump’s lies and autocratic plans, as ABC News’s George Stephanopoulos did in grilling the House majority leader Steve Scalise about whether the 2020 election was stolen.
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I mean, the solution isn’t to just say the other guy is bad.
It’s to run someone who is good.
The solution is to start paying attention and demand better. They won’t change until they’re forced to. That’s going to take numbers.
I hate the both sides statement but….
Both sides selectively prune “good” candidates, unless they fit a candidate the parties can relate to. Really old white dude.
They did that, though.
That’s a great solution to win an election if it were easy to find a golden candidate that people like and can’t be portrayed as less than ideal by the other side. Right now, I’ll happily settle and vote for less than perfect if that candidate is the only one not courting fascism. And I certainly won’t go throwing my vote to someone else just because the only guy standing between democracy and tyranny isn’t checking all my boxes. No, sir. Democracy is too important to throw away just because “I don’t love one candidate and actively fear the other, so I just won’t bother.” Democracy is my single-issue this election. Get out and vote, because this time, democracy is cracking, and it is at risk of collapse to fascism.
I mean, that’s good and all but the reality may be different.
You can tell people what they should care about and what they should do, but they probably won’t do it unless they want to.
If democracy really is hanging by a thread, then democrats should nominate the best candidate possible instead of just ones who protect the status quo.
Hmmm, how on earth is it possible for you to have replied to 26 different posts in the last 60 minutes, across multiple articles, many with multiple paragraphs. Fastest typer in the world?
Yep.
S*** man you might be a slow type if you can’t type that much in an hour.
It isn’t so much the volume of typing, it’s the typing a thought-out answer to all those various articles and responses that seems curious. I type at a pretty fast rate, myself, but I don’t consider someone else’s comments and think up (and then type) fact based replies in that timeframe. My comment about typing speed was more me implying that a 3-day-old account that is responding that quickly to that many people on so many subjects in such a short amount of time – well, it walks and quacks like a bot.
Buddy I just went through that account page. There ain’t no multiple paragraph length dissertations like you are implying. Most of those “paragraphs” are one or two sentences long. That’s just basic literacy.
Exactly. If this was something Democrats cared about, pick a better candidate. Biden’s approval rating is as bad as Trump’s at the same time in his presidency. The guy squeaked by with a win when it should have been a blowout.
What about Biden is bad exactly? Yeah, he’s old. Yeah, he has the exact same position on Israel as literally every US president since its inception. But what about Biden makes him not “good” in your eyes?
I support Biden not because he’s an anti-Trump, but because he’s a genuinely good man who gets things done. He knows how to work the system and gets results.
The part where he raped a woman and blackballed her for trying to report it was kinda bad. The whole thing where right now he’s committing a genocide is also pretty bad too.
I could do a laundry list thing here but it’s hard to put anything next to rape and murdering two million people with hunger and bombs.
Biden is commiting genocide? That’s an interesting take.
What part are you getting hung up on, champ?
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I support Biden not because he’s an anti-Trump, but because he’s a genuinely good man who gets things done. He knows how to work the system and gets results.
As do I. The problem this time around though will be the number of younger independent and third party runners that might end up pulling votes from the “Biden is too old” crowd. And unfortunately, every vote not for Biden is a vote for Trump.
Which is why we need ranked choice voting so we steal power away from this bipartisan system that robs us of our actual choice.
system that robs us of our actual choice.
Let’s cut out the middleman and go straight to direct voting.
Although a president is one of the few positions that I think a country could actually use, even with direct voting. Just for diplomatic relations, cause we can’t all talk to the world leaders at once.
No genuinely good person
Provides weapons and support for the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian peoples.
Supported the invasion of Afghanistan
Votes against marriage equality.
Voted in favour of the largest ever expansion of police power and expansion of the death penalty.
Etc etc.
Biden is not a good person, Biden is a democrat, a right wing scumbag.
Sometimes you’ve got to pick the better of the two and continue until you have someone great.
A lot of what you’re saying is from a long time ago, like a quarter century ago.
He might not be great but if you’re digging that deep for negatives that’s telling.
Sometimes? Every US election in my life time was a choice of the lesser evil.
Now that the Republicans run a literal fascist who’s endangering democracy with project 2025 and his promises to imprison his political enemies, the Democrats could even run war criminal W and you’d have to vote for him because any vote not for Bush would be for Trump.
Democracy is completely broken in the US.
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The question was specifically about why they don’t like Biden. I’m sure they don’t like Trump either, seeing as they called Biden a right-wing scumbag. They answered the question and you people are still like “but Trump!”
If you can’t criticize the things you agree with, they will never improve. If you like something, you should be harder on it than things you don’t like.
It’s generally a bad idea to criticize someone for positions they no longer have and that they now argue against. It’s not really fair to say Biden sucks because of a policy he supported decades ago and no longer does. People should be allowed to change.
Even more, people should be ENCOURAGED to change. One thing that most politicians lack is the ability to reassess a position, and come to the conclusion that they were wrong.
If you blame someone for changing their mind on a position, you just encourage them to dig their heels in deeper and not be open to new information and ideas.
I don’t really agree. We can critique someone on a policy they may have changed position on if they continue to participate in politics and that policy still stands. Until they have an active hand in reversing what they imposed or step away from the job because they admit they are unfit, they don’t get the benefit of the doubt.
Actions speak louder than words sort of thinking here, which I’m inclined to believe.
At the very least, politicians who have changed their stances on issues they voted or worked towards in the past should make reversing those changes part of their agenda. Shows good faith, and is beholden to other branches of the government at that point.
Very often a policy can persist despite someone changing their views on it. Biden is President, he’s not in Congress anymore. The things he can do to effect changes that reflect his own changing views are different now. An example is his changing views on abortions over the last 18 years. In 2006, he stated he believed in limiting abortions, today he’s doing everything possible to protect access but as President, there’s not much he can do about Supreme Court decision and House/states controlled by Republicans. His views changed, but the political landscape makes actually accomplishing broader change near-impossible. That can’t be on him.
I didn’t mention Trump once.
Sometimes you’ve got to pick the better of the two and continue until you have someone great.
Who’s the other one of the two? You didn’t explicitly say his name, but you did mention him.
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The question was specifically about why they don’t like Biden. I’m sure they don’t like Trump either, seeing as they called Biden a right-wing scumbag. They answered the question and you people are still like “but Trump!”
If you can’t criticize the things you agree with, they will never improve. If you like something, you should be harder on it than things you don’t like.
Sorry for the confusion. I do agree with what he says (in fact, I’m the one that upvoted his comment from -5 to -4), I mean, since you’ve got to choose from two “bad” candidates, I’m pointing out that Trump will still not be an option, given that Biden is not really good a president.
Lmao seethe commie . Enjoy 4 more years, then Buttigieg after.
I’m not American.
I’ll enjoy continuing to watch your country turn to shit from a distance while I enjoy my communist universal healthcare system, you know the thing Biden continues to fight against you having.
Lmao ok. Thanks for not mattering.
I do still hope our next presidents deeply upset you tho
You’re no different than a Trump supporter, you don’t care if you suffer as long as you can make others feel mad.
I hope you live a long, full life, and stay mad about it forever
The crime bill
The crime bill was a bad move, but you’d have to also be angry at the congressional black caucus, local POC leaders etc, and I never hear anyone complain about them.
I am.
And coming soon, the internet bill
Biden makes some very poor policy choices. He also championed the bill that made it so you couldn’t default on student loan debt. He conceded the suspension of student loan repayment and got virtually nothing for it.
I am 100% voting for Biden next November and anyone who doesn’t is a god damn idiot but I am never going to pretend Biden is the right pill for america.
Edit: But look at this you guys. We are fucking arguing about Biden in a thread about how the media sucks at portraying Trump for what he is. This is the exact false equivalent the media keeps pushing.
We are asking ourselves why Churchill sucks when Hitler is on the rise.
One day soon, and it will be relatively soon given he’s an unhealthy fat cunt, Trump will die. Soon after someone will publish the last story about Trump.
As the days grow shorter in the Northern Hemisphere, as the world seems to spiral out of control, as yet another last chance to stop climate catastrophe is missed, if you’re feeling incredibly sad about it all, if your life increasingly sucks, if you’ve lost all sense of joy, remember that. Something to look forward to. Something to keep living for.
Not only will trump be gone soon but so will his voting base. The oldest Boomers are 77. Life expectancy in the US is 78. Over the next decade they are going to start dying off in massive numbers, and the Repub’s voting base is majority over 50 years old. In 10 years the shift will be enough that Repubs will struggle in states they currently win easily.
This is a weird take. It sounds like you let hate consume you.
When trump is gone I’ll feel a sense of relief, not joy. If this is the kind of stuff that brings you “joy” then you might need to go outside and touch grass.
You should go outside and touch your ass.
This is because modern media organizations - especially in the US - are primarily focused on one thing: making money. Sometimes making money conflicts with providing useful information and reporting to the public; in those cases, they overwhelmingly choose money over veracity and the public good, because those last two things aren’t highly profitable, and definitely aren’t profitable in the short term.
It blows my mind that even in my country (Poland) TV propaganda shows Trump as the good guy, what a bunch of bullshit.
There is plenty of pootin influence around.
Poland seems to be a hotspot of sorts. Wasn’t a previous Polish political leader there backed by him?
Hasn’t Poland’s government been ultra-right wing the last long while too? The whole anti-gay thing there has been dark.
(I’m only meaning: I can understand why the propaganda in Poland is like that. I agree - it’s all a bunch of bullshit)
One of the issues was the media was very over-focused on every little nitpicky thing to the point many people just stopped giving a shit. Social media took that hyper-focus to 11, vastly exasperating the situation. So when anything big happened, many just didn’t bother to look.
The boy cried wolf 100 times when there was only an ant; when there was a wolf nobody cared to listen to the cries.
For example, I remember this fish-feeding story. People made a deal about how he was feeding fucking koi.
What side of this issue do those who own the media support?
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FFS lady, the media is part of the problem.
Media concentration in the hands of a few billionaires have meant that the only people who become journalists for these major outlets are sycophantical cretins from families who benefit from a Trump win.
She should be directing her ire at her peers specifically.
Right, like who do you think is providing the other side of this opinion? The fucking media. What is this magic “other” media that needs to step in?
Media outlets have been either totally co-opted by the types of organizations they are supposed to blow the whistle on or they are nakedly partisan in order to have a reliable audience.
The call is coming from inside the fucking house, lady!
Haven’t we seen the risks of a Trump presidency… when he was president?
People forget very quickly
Or maybe found it wasn’t as bad as was hyped
Bush & Cheney: Tries to start 5 wars in 5 years
Trump & Pence: Publicly demonstrate how corrupt the US is
Liberals: Trump was the worst president ever¡!1
It was pretty bad, but there was some hyperbole that didn’t end up bearing out.
He is literally telling us that he will be a dictator while using nazi terminology, now, in his own voice, on purpose. It’s unacceptable.
The biggest thing he did was authorize printing all this fucking money for covid. Now we’re screwed
How can it be still legal for Trump to run for President after the capitol attacks and his numerous impeachments and indictments?
He hasn’t been convicted of anything. Legal protections apply to everyone, even people we don’t like.
Because it’s all political theater.
Impeachment is meaningless. It’s just an accusation. If there’s no conviction, all it means is that the people who made the accusations were wrong.
Indictments are the same. Considering the indictments are for things Joe has literally confirmed on camera he did as well (and far, far worse), it’s going to be pretty embarrassing for the Dems to watch their tribe get dragged right into court under that precedent.
Trump is a piece of shit, Joe is even dirtier. The whole thing is an embarrassment and disgrace.
Can you believe how quickly you get down voted for pointing out Biden is a corrupt old man
Well they’ve not been able to demonstrate one single instance of corruption whatsoever. But sure, he’s old
I think it is due to him saying Biden is worse than someone who mirrors historic genocidal maniacs.
Biden isn’t perfect but he seems to at least try to implement positive change, and is not inciting violence on those who disagree with him.
Oh no, not just “mirrors”. Trump has openly said he admires many dictators and genocidal maniacs, including Kim Jong Un, Hitler, Mussolini (apparently his favorite), and Andrew Jackson.
Can you cite anywhere he said any of that?
I’m pretty sure he’s said favourable stuff about those dictators in the past but don’t have the time rn. He did however use the term vermin in a speech to refer to people he doesn’t agree with which is textbook fascist. Have a nice day.
I’m pretty sure he’s said favourable stuff about those dictators in the past but don’t have the time rn.
I think he’s called them smart or strong before, but he also called al-Baghdadi smart before saying he died like a cowardly dog- so I don’t think you can really say that saying someone had respectable attributes means you like the person.
As for insulting people with vermin, I don’t really see that as a specifically fascist thing, Trump insults a lot of different people with a lot of different words, I’m not surprised fascists used some of them.
Have a nice day.
Thanks you too!
Which is also fucking wild. While it’s objectively true Biden sucks it’s also objectively true trump is worse. fuck me dude. I’m a pretty center dude, left of most of the culture stuff, and I don’t gut hate a conservative. I guess the point I’m making is my disdain for that orange fuck and the rest of the current GOP sycophant assholes is an unbiased hatred. How anyone could vote (again, I am A LOT more conservative than 90% of Lemmy, I just don’t have any hate in me. I love you if your black, trans, Jew, muzz, Jesus folk, trees, most insects and all the squirrels) for these evil gerrymandering hate mongers is beyond me but it’s clear it has nothing to do with political ideology/policy and everything to do with hate and disgusting religious belief.
it’s objectively true Biden sucks
Prove it. Objectively.
If you don’t hate them, that just means you don’t understand how their actions have directly made your life worse.
No one is saying he hasn’t done corrupt things, but the assertion was that he was MORE corrupt than Trump. Which is empirically false.
I guarantee you, from Trump’s infidelities, to his solicitation of foreign interference, to his explicit outward racism and sexism, to his desire to kill Americans with COVID by undermining the CDC at every turn, to his weaponization of his supporters to storm the Capitol, to his constant word salad lying, to his tax fraud, to his bank fraud, Trump is astronomically more corrupt and “dirtier” than Joe Biden.
“Joe is even dirtier”
😂🤣😂🤣
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As sad as it is, in this case, the press needs to shut the fuck up. Every bit of news is good for Trump. They could have definite proof of him kicking a disabled child or shooting a Maga voter and it would still get him more votes.
So starve him out. Don’t give him a platform. Take away what he needs most, the constant attention. Everything else didn’t work, so this might be worth a try.
“Yeah well that 5 year old disabled kid had it coming, he’s a pedophile Democrat communist.”
They honestly can’t help themselves. Most news media in the US is nothing more than a PR firm. You got fired from a billion-dollar corporation for trying to unionize? Fuck it, not news worthy. You made a little less as a landlord because renters struggled during COVID… fuck yeah, now that is news worthy. Poor landlords, poor corporations, Powerball, yada yada.
When are people going to be so fucking gullible? Are they actually trying to inform you on facts, or are they trying to lure you in based on fear and bullshit to push their narratives and revenue-partners?
We saw him mock a physically handicapped reporter, full on spastic movements as if it was a schoolyard in the 90s mocking a handicapped student. That’s enough proof that video evidence of him being a terrible person is not going to convince people he’s a terrible person.
No, it would not get him more votes. The main problem for the Democrats are that a lot of non-Trump voters doesn’t vote at all, not that they are suddenly going to turn Trump voters. There has been a consistent non-Trump majority since 2016 after all.
Every person I know understands the risks both Democrat or Republican lol.
