• clearleaf@lemmy.world
    212·
    10 months ago

    My mom pretty much had an existential crisis over this when she made a friend at work and her husband turned out to be Trump supporter. And this is in Canada. It makes you wonder where girls like that even find guys like that.

    • Anyolduser@lemmynsfw.com
      45·
      10 months ago

      This is going to come as a shock to some folks but people don’t need to have the same politics to get along.

      My wife is more conservative than me. We don’t spend much time talking about politics and avoid being dicks to each other. When elections roll around we go to the polls and I’m sure cancel out each other’s votes for a bunch of candidates.

      When you and another person believe that there’s more to life than politics it’s easy to not get hung up on them when it comes to personal relationships. When you or the other person allow politics to dominate your life it isn’t.

        • Anyolduser@lemmynsfw.com
          21·
          10 months ago

          Not to put too fine a point on it, but that’s exactly what I meant by letting politics dominate one’s life.

          I believe that a person’s morals and values can be assessed and expressed in a more meaningful way through their actions and words in day-to-day life than by looking at their political beliefs. In other words seeing how a person treats the people around them, how they handle adversity, and how they enjoy life matters more than making sure they agree with you on issues X,Y, and Z.

          Sometimes political beliefs do indicate core differences in values. A great example is differences in opinion on welfare policies. This indicates different ideas about the role personal responsibility vs the role outside forces play on people’s lives.

          My argument is that that sort of difference in ideals would become apparent very quickly without relying on political ideology to define it. Doing so shuts out any possibility of nuance and immediately turns slight differences of ideals and values into a larger, more hostile “us against them” issue. You’re not dealing with a person with a slightly different perspective anymore, you’re dealing with “the enemy”.

    • dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      31·
      10 months ago

      When you’ve been conditioned all your life by society (and conservatives) to believe that your primary function is to be a baby factory, and you know you only have a finite amount of time to be a baby factory before you’re old and busted and cast aside, you do whatever you can to land someone stable enough to marry, regardless of their politics.

  • Godric@lemmy.world
    41·
    10 months ago

    For some reason I’m reminded of a local house that flies both the Confederate and Pride flags.

    They aren’t mutually exclusive flags, so I have to wonder if it is one opinion, or many.

    • no banana@lemmy.worldOP
      2·
      10 months ago

      Could also be someone flying the flags because they think it’s a funny thing to do, entirely unrelated to the political statement.

      Which I guess is a political statement in itself.

      • Godric@lemmy.world
        2·
        10 months ago

        I certainly found it funny as fuck, my thought process was “ugh, a bigoted cun-wait???”

          • tygerprints@kbin.social
            1·
            10 months ago

            I’m gay and I’ve lived in SLC for almost 65 years, and let me tell you - gay people are among the MOST bigoted. They think they are very accepting, but the truth is, most of them reject anyone who doesn’t fit their idea about what a gay male should be. If you look like a twink or you aren’t a certain way, you get shunned here completely. It’s really nasty to see.

            But, the truth is, all human beings are bigoted. We have to be, we’re wired up that way. We are wired to want to only hang out with certain people and reject others, and see other people as inferior in almost every situation. It’s sort of a survival mechanism from primitive days, and it’s part of who we are as a species.

      • KevonLooney@lemm.ee
        11·
        10 months ago

        Most people were not very accepting of “different” people back then, but maybe it was just not talked about. There were a ton of “confirmed bachelors” and plenty of women had “roommates”.

        People in the North and South were not different. The North had a ton of racists who didn’t want to fight and die for “colored people”. There was a huge riot in NYC of people who didn’t want to be drafted. They killed black people they found for no reason.

        • Donebrach@lemmy.world
          41·
          10 months ago

          I think the Union’s stake in the civil war was more about federal supremacy over the United States (which obviously goes without question in a federal system). Ending slavery was just a function of that goal. I say this as someone who grew up in the southwest and is wholly committed to the authority of the federal government over individual states because that is obviously the system outlined in the constitution.

          Of course “The North” was just as racist and still is just as shitty and racist as every other part of this country.

          P.S. “The South” can suck it as a name, I propose a better title for former confederate states: The Losers (since it seems a certain demographic therein needs reminding).

          • psud@lemmy.world
            02·
            10 months ago

            Sure, the North wanted consolidation. Of course the only reason the south seceded was because the federation said no more slaves

            Many of the people in the North were as racist as the South, but the government was less so

  • fosstulate@iusearchlinux.fyi
    332·
    10 months ago

    That’s not the look of a bigot, it’s the look of a man who’s fed up with low-rent posturing clickbait. The look of someone who got a Salon article entitled What your household’s toothpaste preferences say about White Fragility™ that he knows will be paygated or cookienoticed after two seconds’ scrolling.

    • thecrotch@sh.itjust.works
      2·
      10 months ago

      Nah, progressive racism is well meaning misguided white savior sort of shit, like “if we cut welfare all the black people will starve!”

  • Mago@lemmy.world
    253·
    10 months ago

    If these people are in your social circle it says more about you than “average” straight people.

      • no banana@lemmy.worldOP
        81·
        10 months ago

        These people do exist all over the world, some are parents to users in this thread even!

        • DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe
          71·
          10 months ago

          Where the hell are you (broadly speaking), because I’m in Tennessee (70% Trump 2020) and the only Republicans I have to deal with are family and work related.

          • force@lemmy.world
            1·
            10 months ago

            I live in rural Georgia and in general I can say almost all of the people around me are pretty conservative, my coworkers even casually say typical Republican shit like how it’s sooo absurd that “white people can’t say the N word but black people can”, or how society has gone to shit with this more than 2 genders nonsense, or how taxes are the reason we’re all poor even though they’re managers being paid slightly above other states’ minimum wage at best (~$15.50/hr) and have to waste an absurd amount of money on healthcare & car stuff, or whatever. Even a lot of the queer people I know, stereotypical with dyed hair and all, say this EXACT same shit.

            I think everywhere outside of the major cities in this state are like this, those few civilized blue parts are the only ones keeping this place from collapsing… having days on my own in Savannah have been some of the best times of my life, I’m so used to be confined to this garbage rural suburbia surrounded by red that I truly envy people who live in cities… I’m planning to move to Chicago and hopefully it’s as good as Savannah, in terms of how nice it is to just walk around the city as well as the local establishments & events.

    • no banana@lemmy.worldOP
      242·
      10 months ago

      Damn, that’s totally what she’d say. Excluding the whiteness part. She hasn’t reflected on that.

      • Franklin's Beard@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        121·
        10 months ago

        That’s my mom. She doesn’t really think about stuff like that at all. I still get bullied by my dad whenever I date black people or any POC and I’m well into my 20’s.

        • LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world
          41·
          10 months ago

          My dad had an underlying hate towards others when I was little but it mostly sizzled out by the time Obama was president (2008). 2024 it’s a kerosene fire. Oddly when I was younger he went on a rant about Jews, yet now he seems fine with Jewish people and just hates everyone else.

          Racism is back with a vengeance and media/news is promoting it.

    • niktemadur@lemmy.world
      26·
      10 months ago

      It’s funny because it’s soooo true!
      In fact in MY suburbs, you see it in FIVE out of every FOUR hetero couples! Now waddaya think of that, huh?

    • xePBMg9@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
      131·
      10 months ago

      Neither did I. I may still not understand it. But I googled salon article and found a site with that name that publishes progressive news and opinions. So I guess they are saying a lot of couples are opposite in opinion on these things. They might be joking about the one spouse being oblivious to their partners racism or having double standards or something.

      • no banana@lemmy.worldOP
        82·
        10 months ago

        They might be joking about the one spouse being oblivious to their partners racism or having double standards or something.

        Pretty much. I personally find it funny because I know one of these couples. It’s obviously not 1/3, but they do exist.

    • XEAL@lemm.ee
      62·
      10 months ago

      I think the point is that she’s a nice person in general and he’s a very racist POS.