• teft@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    164
    arrow-down
    34
    ·
    10 months ago

    The fucking orcs were setting up whites only bars. Good for Sri Lanka for kicking them out.

    • Flumpkin@slrpnk.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      93
      arrow-down
      27
      ·
      10 months ago

      The fucking orcs

      were setting up whites only bars

      This is so confusing, are we for or against racism?

        • Franklin@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          16
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          edit-2
          10 months ago

          I’ve had this talk so many times, it’s a simple lesson but it needs repeating.

          • Cinner@lemmy.worldB
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            10
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            edit-2
            10 months ago

            It may be a conversation worth having in a 1 to 1, but internet denizens crave hate and hate as much as they can when they can.

            Usually I get downvoted for “let’s come together” comments that say things like all Israelis and Russians shouldn’t die in a fire, because they are not all bad, when people are calling for culling them. The internet is weird.

            A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it. - Agent Kay

            • hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              7
              arrow-down
              6
              ·
              10 months ago

              It’s Russian people who allow Putin to commit his shit

              It’s Israelis who allow their government commit the shit

              • Cinner@lemmy.worldB
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                5
                arrow-down
                3
                ·
                edit-2
                10 months ago

                It’s the Mongols who allowed Ghengis Khan to commit his shit.

                Uh oh, now you should be worried considering his lineage is in most of us. Those damn Mongol ancestors of yours. Why were your ancestors so complicit in the rape and pillage of continents? I think that makes you complicit, too, by your logic.

                Pitchforks at the ready everyone.

                • misanthropy@lemm.ee
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  arrow-down
                  1
                  ·
                  10 months ago

                  Find me one person who got their trip to the “Homeland” who isn’t cheering for Gazan genocide? Obviously anecdotes, but numerous people I went to high school with have been posting horrendous shit since all this kicked off

        • hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          14
          arrow-down
          2
          ·
          10 months ago

          It’s not “few” orcs that have crossed the border to Ukraine. It’s not “few” orcs celebrating the ethnic cleansing of Ukraine. It’s the collaborative efforts of a nation

          • index@sh.itjust.works
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            8
            arrow-down
            7
            ·
            10 months ago

            Should i blame you because your government openly support genocide in gaza? I could but we both know that the government and people in power are the ones to blame, most people are feed up on the propaganda these criminals spread to gain wealth and power.

            • Nythos@sh.itjust.works
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              5
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              10 months ago

              That entirely depends on whether OP you’re replying to cheers for the destruction of Gaza and their government being complicit in it.

            • hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              4
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              10 months ago

              I assume you take me as American? I do think it’s fair to call out how dumb they’re voting, as it’s fair to do with Finland too

      • catloaf@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        56
        arrow-down
        16
        ·
        edit-2
        10 months ago

        Russian is not a race.

        Orcs are a race, but they’re fictional.

        • Flumpkin@slrpnk.net
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          11
          arrow-down
          41
          ·
          10 months ago

          Race in humans is a fictional construct. Doesn’t exist scientifically.
          So logically, racism can’t exist either.

          Hey, did we just solve racism???

          • AFaithfulNihilist@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            13
            arrow-down
            3
            ·
            10 months ago

            Just because angels, gods, gremlins and Eskimos are imaginary doesn’t mean that people can’t be afraid of them.

            • nrezcm@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              5
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              10 months ago

              You must be trolling because Eskimos aren’t imaginary. I use their tax software every year when I go to file my return.

            • Flumpkin@slrpnk.net
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              5
              arrow-down
              15
              ·
              10 months ago

              Racism has always been about inequality and dehumanizing people. It was always a constructed or mythological fixed identity.

              But that’s not funny. That’s just sad.

              It’s not funny like calling them orcs.

              But that comment is 85% upvoted so clearly I’m wrong and that can’t be racism. Hey, maybe I have brain bleeds from long covid. Honestly that would be preferable to this shit. “Russians aren’t really hur hur hur”. Fucking racist morons.

        • lolcatnip@reddthat.com
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          12
          arrow-down
          2
          ·
          edit-2
          10 months ago

          Russian is an ethnicity. Bigotry against an ethnicity is not different in any meaningful way from bigotry against a race. Referring to it as racism may be technically incorrect but it get the right idea across.

          • mojofrododojo@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            arrow-down
            3
            ·
            10 months ago

            no one’s asserting ALL russians - Navalney was a hero for example.

            But the country is run by a shitstain of a human being; calling them orcs or chuds is certainly justified by their warcrime actions.

    • index@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      6
      arrow-down
      17
      ·
      10 months ago

      The fucking orcs were setting up whites only bars. Good for Sri Lanka for kicking them out.

      This comment sound as much racist as the people you are referring to, i hope you realize that you are just like them

      • TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        18
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        10 months ago

        It sounds like the “orcs” this person was referring broke the tolerance contract first, by setting up white only bars. I see no problem here at all. Bigots aren’t deserving of any sort of civility.

        • locuester@lemmy.zip
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          3
          arrow-down
          3
          ·
          edit-2
          10 months ago

          So if a gang of African American people broke into my house and called me a cracker, does that grant me the right to call them by a derogatory name?

    • Infiltrated_ad8271@kbin.social
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      99
      arrow-down
      6
      ·
      edit-2
      10 months ago

      They didn’t kick out that minority who ran racist businesses, they kicked out all the 288k people who reneged on their “duty” to go kill ukrainians and die for putin’s aspirations.

      • livus@kbin.social
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        13
        ·
        10 months ago

        The fact that unregistered illegal Russian businesses had become an actual problem there indicates that Sri Lanka - a very poor nation that almost went bankrupt last year - is not equipped to deal with an influx of that size.

        If you want someone to take on 288 thousand refugees I agree with you, but it shouldn’t be Sri Lanka.

        Tourism minister Harin Fernando told Daily Mirror that the ministry has been receiving complaints of some Russian tourists running unregistered and illegal businesses in the southern part of the country.

      • rdri@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        10 months ago

        That’s a wrong amount. Real figure is unknown, though surely much lower. Check the article.

      • Quokka@quokk.au
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        19
        arrow-down
        36
        ·
        edit-2
        10 months ago

        Maybe instead of living the peaceful life for a few years until the war ends, they’ll have to go hold their own country accountable.

        • Infiltrated_ad8271@kbin.social
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          46
          arrow-down
          7
          ·
          10 months ago

          It would be ideal, but this is not something that can be solved with votes and protests. If I were in their shoes, I certainly wouldn’t be the brave one who would give his life to rebel against tyranny.
          It’s not their responsibility either, they just had the bad luck to be born there.

        • isles@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          58
          arrow-down
          6
          ·
          10 months ago

          Easy words to type, difficult to live. Try considering the entirety of someone’s situation before prescribing their actions.

    • magnetosphere@kbin.social
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      37
      ·
      10 months ago

      Seriously? “Thanks for letting us escape to your country, now stay the fuck out of our bar.” Major dick move.

  • John_McMurray@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    17
    arrow-down
    4
    ·
    10 months ago

    I mean this kinda awful. They’re not their government and they clearly don’t want to be part of the war.

    • AbackDeckWARLORD@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      20
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      edit-2
      10 months ago

      I mean this kinda awful. They’re not their government and they clearly don’t want to be part of the war.

      But they are racist and have a “white only” policy in a country that isn’t even theirs. So why should that country host them?

      It comes amid a furious social media backlash over Russian-run businesses with a “whites only” policy that strictly bars locals. These businesses include bars, restaurants, water sports and vehicle hiring services.

      • soggy_kitty@sopuli.xyz
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        arrow-down
        13
        ·
        10 months ago

        Do you think all russian citizens are racist?

        I’m convinced this war has been going on long enough that xenophobia against Russians is considered acceptable which is fucking awful

        • hitmyspot@aussie.zone
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          9
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          10 months ago

          Of course not all Russian citizens are racist but there are varying levels of racism, homophobia and bigotry across the globe. Having a whites only policy would fall into that. Not many other countries citizens would be so bold as to do that on another country.

          • fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            10 months ago

            It’s really unclear exactly what’s going on with that though. I’m morbidly curious to know how it really is.

            I mean are their suburbs or areas with signs in every restaurant window saying “whites only!”, or was it a once-off altercation between a sri-lankan patron and a russion restauranteur? Probably something in between, but we really don’t know where exactly on that spectrum.

            Honestly this happens to some extent in any holiday destination in SEA. Obviously it’s not as overt as having “Whites Only” signs, but it’s not necessarily a Russian thing.

    • sheogorath@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      7
      ·
      10 months ago

      I understand their response with this. IIRC Indonesia is having the same problems with Ukrainians and Russians staying in Bali to avoid the war. The situation got so problematic the local government added Russian to their warning signs.

      Although the Russians are more problematic since their banks got sanctioned and cannot use Visa networks so they’re unable to pull any money from the ATMs and have resorted to taking local jobs and even panhandling there.

      https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2023/3/15/they-dont-respect-us-russians-face-backlash-in-bali

  • SoonaPaana@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    12
    arrow-down
    5
    ·
    10 months ago

    After all Sri Lanka does have previous experience with committing genocide and getting away with it.

    • Poplar?@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      12
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      10 months ago

      War crimes in a civil war and immigration issues involving Russian tourists. They seem a tad bit unrelated :P

      • SoonaPaana@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        7
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        10 months ago

        Yeah I understand. I got upset with few comments that were praising Sri Lanka. I just wanted to remind people that Sri Lanka has its skeletons too. Hidden away in mass graves.

  • Dentzy@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    70
    arrow-down
    13
    ·
    10 months ago

    I was going to say that I preferred them to stay in Sri Lanka, at least they would not become more soldiers for Putin… But moving there and then creating “whites only bars” 🤦, yeah, Sri Lanka is right in kicking them.

    • catloaf@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      5
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      10 months ago

      You know their economy basically collapsed in 2022, right? They’re still recovering.

        • Wanderer@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          10 months ago

          Tonnes of websites will give you info on being a digital nomad.

          Seeing as the country took a hit lately things should be cheap and they will be happy to have someone supporting the economy. If its safe it sounds like a real option.

    • FluffyPotato@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      10 months ago

      Digital nomad is just a word for tech bro immigrant, just like expat is a word for white immigrant. Just own it and say you’re an immigrant, it sounds less stupid.

    • Quokka@quokk.au
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      12
      arrow-down
      5
      ·
      10 months ago

      You’ve gotta wait for your civil war 2.0, it’ll probably be in the next 5-10 years at the rate your country is going.

        • zabadoh@ani.social
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          10 months ago

          If the Republicans follow the example of their Russian heroes, you’ll have to be over 80 to escape their version of the draft.

  • Toldry@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    28
    ·
    10 months ago

    I visited Sri Lanka a few months ago, I remember visiting Hikkaduwa (a beach town in the south-west) and there were tons of Russian tourists there. All the local businesses had signs in Russran, and some hotels rooms even had Russian flags hanging from the balconies.

    I remeber talking to a Belarussian woman who has escaped Belarus when the war on Ukraine started because she was a political dissident and it was dangerous for her to stay. She’s been working there as a waitress ever since she arrived.

    • volvoxvsmarla @lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      14
      ·
      10 months ago

      How did she feel about serving Russian tourists? I mean, not every Russian is pro Putin, let alone pro war. But if you feel the need to hang a freaking flag other than the one of the opposition from your hotel’s balcony you probably belong to the ribbon wearing scum.

      • Toldry@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        10 months ago

        She described being enraged by them and wanting to strangle them, but then she takes a deep breath and reminds herself that that kind of violent impulse is what wrought this war in the first place, so she tries to avoid that type of thinking

  • AutoTL;DR@lemmings.worldB
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    14
    ·
    10 months ago

    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Sri Lanka has told hundreds of thousands of Russians and some Ukrainians staying in the country to escape the war that they must leave in the next two weeks, immigration officers said.

    The immigration controller issued a notice to the tourism ministry asking Russian and Ukrainian people staying on extended tourist visas to leave Sri Lanka within two weeks from 23 February.

    The president’s office said that the notice had been issued without prior cabinet approval and the government had not officially decided to revoke the visa extensions, reported the Sri Lankan newspaper Daily Mirror.

    However, concerns have been raised over thousands of Russians and a smaller number of Ukrainians staying in the country for an extended period of time and even setting up their own restaurants and nightclubs.

    Tourism minister Harin Fernando told Daily Mirror that the ministry has been receiving complaints of some Russian tourists running unregistered and illegal businesses in the southern part of the country.

    In a bid to boost tourism and recover from its worst economic crisis since 2022, Sri Lanka began granting 30-days visas on arrival and extensions for up to six months.


    The original article contains 358 words, the summary contains 189 words. Saved 47%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

  • Mr_Blott@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    37
    arrow-down
    6
    ·
    10 months ago

    An Israeli bloke was telling me the other day how loads of russian Jewish people had gone to Israel to avoid the war. Actually lol’d

      • Mr_Blott@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        arrow-down
        8
        ·
        10 months ago

        Admittedly an horribly flippant comment on my part. He was actually saying how most of the russian Jewish were highly educated and hardworking compared to the average Israeli, and a massive boon to the country

        Not sure how to feel about that given both country’s circumstances

    • Wanderer@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      10 months ago

      Jews or “Jews”?

      You can just say you’re a converted Jew right? With proof. There must be some people trying some shady shit to get the proof.