• The Soca Vault @lemmy.worldEnglish
    215·
    27 days ago

    People have to be willing to give things a try, so I think it will definitely grow. I was never a Reddit user, I tried this on a whim, just to try and have conversations with different people. The one good thing is that there are many functional apps, and you will only see things you are interested in, and when you don’t, you down vote it.

    But ultimately it’s still the same echo chamber that all social media is, but without ads.

    • OpenStars@discuss.onlineEnglish
      52·
      27 days ago

      All social media, and irl too, has biases. As we do ofc - e.g. we linux Linux, especially Arch btw:-P - but it seems to me that the Fediverse is fundamentally different, b/c of the nature of consent.

      On Facebook, YouTube, Twitter/X, and Reddit now that it is acting more like the former, ThE aLgOrItHm makes choices for you, whereas here if you want to create an echo chamber, you have to put in a LOT of effort to ensure that you are never exposed to anything that you would disagree with.

      For one thing, you would have to subscribe to communities first, and those would have to have enough content to hold your interest, which means a continual search for more of such communities. Scrolling through the All feed would absolutely be prohibited if you wanted to make an echo chamber for yourself.

      Again, literally every social media platform has biases, but here those do not rise to the level of “echo chamber”, imho? I do concede that it is not entirely unlike one of those, and yet on the spectrum, aren’t we far less than most other common platforms?

      • The Soca Vault @lemmy.worldEnglish
        3·
        27 days ago

        I think it’s really easy to make an echo chamber here, make a community and only follow said community? I enjoy Lemmy, because look,we are having legitimate conversations, but some posts I have come across - it’s like no conversation, just putting down an opposite point of view.

        Me personally, I do my best to try and avoid the political stuff, but even that is difficult at times.

        But yes, subscribe to the communities and if the content is there, great, if not, make some or help promote it.

        • OpenStars@discuss.onlineEnglish
          21·
          27 days ago

          Okay so it is theoretically possible but is it plausible that this could be a common use-case?

          Anyway, you said “it’s still the same echo chamber that all social media is” - and that statement goes far beyond using the Fediverse as an echo chamber to say that it is that way for everyone (further implication: all the time). i.e. the most command-language interpretation of your words would be that they meant that that tiny little theoretical possibility is what this place is, therefore I wanted to point out that there is so much more to consider, e.g. there are other ways to use it.

    • Deebster@programming.devEnglish
      422·
      27 days ago

      Don’t downvote stuff just because you’re not interested in it! There’s no algorithm you’re training, you’re just being rude to people.

      Downvotes should be for worthless content and people being dicks.

      • The Soca Vault @lemmy.worldEnglish
        32·
        27 days ago

        I agree - no algorithm - but if someone is posting 💩 then it’s 💩 they get. Hey if I post 💩 I would fully expect that. Lol

      • jeffw@lemmy.worldEnglish
        292·
        27 days ago

        I run many small communities and it kills me when people from “all” downvote stuff.

        If you don’t care about the topic, block the community or skip the posts

        • The Soca Vault @lemmy.worldEnglish
          61·
          27 days ago

          Correct. If you don’t like the content in the community, then why be there? Just join things that interest you, no need to be a 💩

        • ripcord@lemmy.worldEnglish
          21·
          27 days ago

          Ironically your comment is the only one I’ve seen in this post that qualifies.

  • u/unhappy_grapefruit_2@lemmy.worldEnglish
    22·
    27 days ago

    That’s nice. Hopefully thanks to this outcome. More niche hobbyist community’s will appear on lemmy And hopefully less auth left tankies I would like to see more posts and communities that bring more people together and not apart. Arts and crafts,Gaming,music,History,Exercise,Cooking,foraging Essentially the world’s the oyster. There’s a million hobbies out there I would hope there’s a good amount of Lemmy communities based upon those hobbies

    • cRazi_man@lemm.eeEnglish
      12·
      27 days ago

      Lemmy hasn’t really gotten over the fragmentation of communities. There are multiple gaming subs, some have double digit users, some have thousands. That shit needs to be consolidated.

    • ᴇᴍᴘᴇʀᴏʀ 帝@feddit.ukEnglish
      2·
      27 days ago

      I would like to see more posts and communities that bring more people together and not apart. Arts and crafts,Gaming,music,History,Exercise,Cooking,foraging Essentially the world’s the oyster. There’s a million hobbies out there I would hope there’s a good amount of Lemmy communities based upon those hobbies

      Be the change you want to see - share interesting posts, start communities if you see a niche, etc.

  • dumblederp@lemmy.worldEnglish
    49·
    27 days ago

    Reddit is getting worse.

    Anyone noticed they’ve added tracking into the url?

    They’re AI banning more and more people for nonsense.

    My perma-banned account still works well enough, I just can’t comment or up/downvote. I can still subscribe and use RES.

    • juice702@lemmy.worldEnglish
      32·
      27 days ago

      Been a long time user and my 13 year old account banned because i said something bad about Putin. Deleted all reddit apps, my account’s posts and whatnot, and now I’m here. Already digging this site.

      • Pacattack57@lemmy.worldEnglish
        6·
        27 days ago

        I got banned because a mod found one of my comments distasteful and I accidentally commented on one of my alts. It’s ludicrous what those mods get away with.

      • solsangraal@lemmy.zipEnglish
        3·
        26 days ago

        apparently you can still edit your comments with a banned account. some day when i’m really bored i’ll go through and start editing all my comments on my 10+ yr old permabanned accts to be 10,000 characters of n̸̢̡̡̟̣̝̖͉̺̟̫̜̱̬̗̜̗̋̇ớ̷̢̧̡̦͍̝̖̣̪͉͕͕̙̖̭͔̯̪͚̯̳͇̻̬̺̲͓̞̫̦̝̮͉̞̣͖̻̮͔͍̤̺͕̦̓͑͗̀̂͋̍̆͛̂̏̽͐͘̕͠͠͝n̸̨̞͖̫̭̱̯̬̩̲͎̫̟͇͚̪̜̤̟͓͕̜̟̖̻̗͙̭̣̼͂͌͆̿̏̐͑́͘͝s̴̢̢̧̧̰̼̳̼̳̞̠̯̙̗̏̽̓̿̏̈́̀͑͂̀͊̏̆̎͑̚͜ȩ̴̛̪̻͍͙̰̥͖̱̘͚̦̻̎̏͑̊͂̈́̿̇̃̌̍́̽̌̒̊̃́͌̀̿̉̔́̑̕̕͘̚͠͝n̸̛̦͌͌̔͆͛͐̄̃͊̓̾͂͂s̷̛̼͙̞̬͙̠͉̖͙͎͇͓̫͓̺̯͈̣͍̮͑̃̐̑̌̃̔̇̚̚͝͝͠e̴̢̛͎̣̱͚͈̝̮̥͇̭͈̐̎̄̔̾͆̉̓́̂́̋̉̋̀̔̄̂̍͋̒̄̈́͐͂͐͘͘͜͝͠

    • SomeGuy69@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      27 days ago

      One used to be able to disable the outbound click on Reddit, in the account settings, but default they track everything.

    • Cowbee@lemmy.mlEnglish
      31·
      26 days ago

      It won’t. Some instances will get close, like Lemmy.world, but federation makes Lemmy fundamentally different.

    • cRazi_man@lemm.eeEnglish
      82·
      27 days ago

      It will if Lemmy becomes successful. It will have to stay tiny and very niche. Or else all communities have to deal with Eternal September if they start getting a lot of users. Then communities will gravitate towards the same lowest common denominator content and comments seen elsewhere.

      • SeattleRain@lemmy.worldEnglish
        112·
        27 days ago

        Nah, that’s the whole point of federation. To keep it from becoming Reddit. The problem with Reddit isn’t that it’s big, it’s that it’s highly censored on a wide variety of topics that aren’t anywhere near offensive but simply counter to Western hegemony.

  • TIN@feddit.ukEnglish
    46·
    27 days ago

    I’ve been here since the API changes at Reddit and the sub blackouts that followed, and I think it’s becoming more interesting all the time. Back in the early days there was no point in refreshing the /all feed more than once every 4 hours as it just wouldn’t have changed, now it’s much more than that. The number of posts with actual discussions are increasing, and other than a few blocked users, communities and one instance, I like the people I’m sharing space with.

    • barsquid@lemmy.worldEnglish
      82·
      27 days ago

      I also greatly prefer the people on Lemmy and I hope that continues even as more and more redditors show up. Without a spez calling the shots, perhaps instances will tend to ban and defederate from far-right radicalization chambers instead of promoting them to the front page.

      • Cowbee@lemmy.mlEnglish
        2·
        26 days ago

        Pretty much all of the far-right instances are defederated from the major servers, except lemm.ee, which intentionally lets users block instances they don’t like.

    • RBG@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
      5·
      26 days ago

      This is fucking hilarious.

      The entire time since that announcement last year dropped I have been using the modified Infinity for Reddit client that has my own API code in it.

      I told myself if that stops working, whatever, I will not try to keep the app up to date and I will not switch apps. Lemmy works well enough for me now.

      Up to this day the few times I have been accessing reddit through it I have no issues whatsoever. Amazing. Then again I never tried while they had issues with their official app, I suppose. Unless that is right now as I type this, because right now my app is still working fine.

    • demizerone@lemmy.worldEnglish
      4·
      25 days ago

      They are also using automation to review comments that might harm their advertising partners. After 15 year a joke about Boeing got my account suspended. I deleted my top comments and closed it after that. Fucking trash. Now I only got to the site if Google search takes me there and with ad block enabled. Spez can suck it.

  • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.worldEnglish
    3·
    27 days ago

    I would like to see a participation per capita breakdown. IOW who posts the most per person relative to the number of participants. Edit: by country and community.

  • PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.ukEnglish
    13·
    27 days ago

    it was nice seeing some gardening stuff pop up in my feed the other day rather than just a constant stream of facebook tier memes and tankie vs non-tankie arguing

  • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
    6115·
    27 days ago

    I’ll never stop complaining about Y axis that don’t start at zero.

    If that means the change isn’t noticable, then the change isn’t noticable.

    • Windex007@lemmy.world
      English
      421·
      27 days ago

      Yeah when I showed the cop the graph of my speed before getting in my car to be 67000mph (speed of the earth around the sun) to 67080mphwhen I was driving it he couldn’t see the difference so I didn’t get the ticket.

      Or sometimes choosing a common-sense reference makes sense.

      Which isn’t to say THIS one does, it doesn’t, but the absolutism of “it’s nerf or nothing” is a tad extreme.

      • aasatru@kbin.earth
        15·
        27 days ago

        Well, it does make sense, doesn’t it?

        What we’re interested in is not the number of users, but the trends: whether the number is increasing or decreasing over time. Starting the axis at 0 would not be useful in this regard, as the trend would be almost completely obscured.

        • Windex007@lemmy.world
          English
          3·
          27 days ago

          If the goal is to visualize growth trends, I don’t think raw user counts are the correct value to track on the Y-axis at all. That’s where my head was at when I said it doesn’t make sense. Abusing the Y-axis to try and coax data out in this case is just a symptom of having the wrong measure.

          Daily new users. Percent user growth.

          • HobbitFoot @thelemmy.clubEnglish
            3·
            27 days ago

            There is visible growth in posts and comments, which is good. However, I’ve also started seeing spam posts.

        • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
          3·
          27 days ago

          For something like that, you need a special graph, and I forget the name because no one uses it.

          Y axis is “percent growth” and the X axis isn’t at the bottom, it’s in the middle.

          Like, the only way I can describe it is a line graph because it technically is, but there’s some name done it.

          Capitalism doesn’t like it tho, because there’s “red numbers” and red numbers scare investors

          • aasatru@kbin.earth
            1·
            27 days ago

            At some point recognisability is also worth something. I can immediately read this graph, I understand it, it’s good.

            Occasionally it’s used in a confusing way where people assume it starts at zero despite it not being the case, and sometimes intentionally so. But that’s just the case here.

    • Nougat@fedia.io
      185·
      27 days ago

      I’ll never stop complaining about Y axis that don’t start at zero.

      If that means the change isn’t noticable, then the change isn’t noticable.

  • dzanno@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    32·
    27 days ago

    I was word of mouthed here yesterday. As someone interested in self hosting and open source i might be the target audience sure, but I am here due to recent news and such