We need to stop treating the people who have fallen for these things as idiots. They and their families have been failed by the education system and the support systems of their state. They’ve been told for generations who to blame and usually no one has ever taken the effort to explain that the people have been lying to them. America is one of the most propagandized countries in the world. The more we treat these people like idiots the more they will push back on ideas we hold and fall back into their old biases.
We must try to educate and communicate as best we can when people are willing to talk. Memes like this don’t help.
It goes deeper than that.
There are conformist subcultures and individualist subcultures. Conformist subcultures are found in sparsely populated rural areas, where people need to come togeather to get big stuff done (especially in history). Individualist subcultures are found in cities and suburbs.
If you ask these people to describe themselves, conformist people often tell you many characteristics that describe their relation to people around them. Individualist people usually have only few or none.
This can be seen globally in various things and in how people think. Especially in the value of individuality. For some people it is a virtue to think the same way as others and it’s a good thing that dissidents are “reeducated”. They are “broken” and need to be “mended”.
Western way of thinking in average is very individualistic. Russian and Asian thinking is more conformist. What changed in the recent decades is that internet and social media amplified the voice of western conformists subcultures. Changeing the average. They are no longer “hidden in the countryside” with their small local print media.
Social science stuff over.
It is my own observation that people from conformist subcultures tend to like more authoritarian leaders. Doesn’t really matter if it’s left or right. That is determined more by local culture and history.
However, conformists wan’t to vote the same way as others. Throw a big enough wrench in there and shift can be sudden.
If you let them stay in their bubble and just yell profanities at them, you’ll just make sure that nothing changes.
I always feel like we’re off to a weird place when someone categorizes things as “western”. There are countries with radically different approaches to life and government being lumped into this weird, dated catch-all.
I found your post above really interesting, and well thought out. This said, I don’t agree that everything boils down to individualistic and conformist subcultures. I think it really does boil down, more often than not, to media consumption and skepticality.
I have members of my family that are hard-right Trump supporters. They all came from one of the largest cities in California, and now have an irrational hate for their home. I’ve spoken with them about political topics, and they aren’t capable of defending their viewpoints at all. They always seem to indicate that everyone who disagrees with them is perversely ignorant.
If anything, the cities are the conformist cultures. People who live close to others are forced to often hear viewpoints that may force them to challenge their own world views. This is often surrounding accepting others, and understanding and calling out bad behavior. In this way, there is a very real forced conformism taking place. If you’re going to live in a big city, you need to be tolerant.
And that right there… US Conservatives hate it. They don’t want to change, not even when it means shedding a cruel trait they learned from a backwards person. On the other end, the far-left can often get carried away and conflate ignorance with cruelty (e.g. An old dude calling a trans woman by the wrong pronoun by mistake.)
It’s become a vexing culture war where everyone seems to want to destroy the opposition. And it’s being stoked by foreign influences like Russia to no end, too.
Your dead on about your analysis of the “bubbles”, though. If people can’t recognize the other side is the same as them in more ways than it’s different, then this division will only grow nastier and nastier until it destroys and/or destabilizes life as we know it.
And posts like this one alienate them even further and simply confirm what they’re told, that the educated elites hate them
Ok but they and their ilk actively vote against education funding and programs to help them out of their situation.
How do you think we get them to stop doing that?
…education? Shit, no, that didn’t work. They voted against it because school vouchers are freedom or something. This is hard.
Its amazing stuff like this still shows up after “boaters for trump” was a thing.
remember when they were so obnoxious and inconsiderate that they used their wale to sink the boat of one of their own?
Remember the times they effectively blockaded highways with their ad hoc motorcades, and they kept getting into wrecks there too?
What the fuck is this low effort orange man bad content. Half the reason they are going running to a strongman is all the hill billy bullshit like this. Treat them like humans, not stereotypes.
I am not saying they are good people but this literally helps no one. Get fucked.
I think the abrasive, comical take here is well-earned. Anyone who thinks this guy is anything like Jesus is just as ridiculous as this picture, if not more so.
I don’t think it’s meant to solve anything… I think it’s just a comedic vent for the absurdity we’re all experiencing.
There are swarms of people directly comparing Trumps extra-marital affair with a porn star to the literal condemnation of Christ from Pontius Pilate. This brings the image above into a pretty accurate light.
It’s not saying every Trump supporter is this person, but it is saying anyone declaring him Christ-like at this stage is just as dumb as the image above appears.
Exactly. Coming from a brown person, this is fucking racist.
Economically comfortable (until very recently maybe), smug middle class lefties using harmful stereotypes to punch down on conservative voters has been a long running embarrassment to the political landscape.
The demographic these jokes target often have the least amount of freedom to spend on being politically engaged and figuring out who is actually in their best interest, which is why they usually end up voting for a strong personality like Trump and the right’s bias towards the Christian inspired philosophy.
When the left space fills it’s self with explicitly elitist, classist, and exclusionary rhetoric like this just so they can all sit around a jerk each other off about how much more smarter they are, they only end up pushing them furtherer away from learning about the left and developing a more nuanced and informed political world-view. If you don’t have a lot of time to spend on yourself, are you going to waste it surrounding your self with people who constantly blabber about how much they hate you and think your a incestuous degenerate drug addict invalid?
Is this your best argument against Trump?
If you cannot even realise this as a shit post, and got offended by it, I highly recommend re-evaluating your life choices.
Also Jesus was not white, good luck with that one.
You’re showing multiple tells of cognitive dissonance.
Am I now… Enlighten me oh stranger of the internet. Keep in mind, you might not be speaking to a person… Maybe I’m a lib AI that’s going to eat your first-born.
It’s so fuckin’ funny when reactionaries project their insecurities onto others.
It’s just so transparent LMAO!
Dude, how manipulative can you get?
I’m rated at a +7, so it depends on my roll.
You’re hilarious. Keep it up.
You think that is an argument? That is not an argument. It is mocking people. You should know the concept of mocking, considering your name.
Are you mocking my moniker?
No your intelligence, which is quite hard to find it seems.
This is unbelievably bad taste
Edit: fuck, on second thought I think I just fell for ops bait lol
It’s a SHITpost, you’re not supposed to taste them…
This one tastes like Mountain Dew.
Or perhaps Four Loko
It’s smells like my Bruncle Dave
What does a trump supporter say while she’s engaged in coitus?
“Get off me paw, yur crushin’ muh smokes”
S Tier, sir!
