If you boil coffee it’ll be over extracted, bitter, and nasty.
Really feels like one should be “tea is made from tea”
Beef tea was when people would boil jerky to rehydrate it. I actually do that at work sometimes! Most nights I enjoy bouillon broth on its own, but occasionally I’ll spruce it up with a little jerky, and it actually thicken up and get more tender! It also GREATLY enhances the flavor of the broth. When the dry night air of the office is bothering my throat, nothing satisfies quite like warm broth.
(I get hot water by not putting any coffee grounds in the coffee machine. I also use this to prepare tea on occasion, and also ramen cups every once in a blue moon)
+1 for coffee machine cup ramen, a very useful technique that I implement often.
Asking anyway. Hey Fiora, is a hotdog in a hotdog bun considered a sandwich?
It’s a taco. Next question
Rivers are hot dogs by the way
except… with “pure” tea you don’t consume the original ingredient. (eating tea leaves or coffee grounds? eeww.)
pho, etc you do. ergo, not tea.
In that instance a clogged gutter is still tea
Might be cleaner than some people’s tea pots… 😅
What about stock? Take some bones, spices, and vegetables; boil them in water; and strain out all the solids. You’re left with nothing but a flavored liquid.
sure, stock is tea. the base of pho is tea, but pho isn’t pho until you at least put some noodles in it. Until then, it’s just ingredients for pho.
Now you’ve got a stew going!
Pho is just animal oil/juice suspended. Everything else is like milk, honey, lemon, sugar, etc. that people do consume in tea.
what about the rice noodles, chicken, mushrooms, etc etc.? come on.
As the other person mentioned, the base of pho is the stock which includes steeped plants. So it’s tea with some other things thrown in it.
So if a deranged person drinks the broth without eating the ingredients, did they then turn their pho into tea?
they didn’t have pho to start with. they just drank one of the ingredients of pho.
Wait, so then we have the comparison all wrong. Pho isn’t Vietnamese Tea, Tea is British Pho?
no.
Pretty sure its pronounced “Nuh”
Pho is just a loose-leaf tea.
that’s only true if you eat tea leaves.
No, because you don’t really make tea by boiling tea leaves. Tea is an infusion made from pouring hot water over tea leaves. Not boiling tea leaves.
It’s only tea if it’s made from the tea region of the plant. Anything else is sparkling suspension
So, is a martini with the olive on top, a preparation rebel/igredient neutral or ingredient purist?
I guess I’m an ingredient purist, preparation rebel. If your house is surrounded by tea plants, and the tea leaves fall in the gutter, how is that different from brewing tea the normal way?
Hey, that’s basically tea’s origin story.
In Chinese legend, Emperor Shennong was drinking a bowl of just boiled water because of a decree that his subjects must boil water before drinking it.[12] Some time around 2737 BC, a few leaves were blown from a nearby tree into his water, changing the color and taste. The emperor took a sip of the brew and was pleasantly surprised by its flavor and restorative properties.
mighty brave for an emperor to look see that their water has changed color, and decide to try it anyway.
Yeah. Likely an emperor’s chief taster/minion discovered Tea and credit was stolen.
Does your gutter contain 90°C hot water?
Water isn’t the ideal temperature. Everyone knows black tea must be made with water that’s 212-210 degreases Fahrenheit
JFC, for someone so bent about the proper way to prepare tea, one would think you’d be able to spell “degrees”
LOL I know how to spell degrees. I probably hit the wrong key and spellcheck autocorrected it to something random. Welcome to 2024.
This and the cube rule are the best way to make an argument for categorizing edible items
Saturn is a mixture of gases. It has a solid rocky/hydrogen core surrounded by a layer of liquid hydrogen/helium. You could argue that this intermediate liquid layer might have solid particulates, and this would agree with the definition, but overall Saturn is too complicated to be classified this way. A better extreme example would be something like Earth’s oceans.
You’re response sounds like what an AI would say when you try to be sarcastic with it.
An AI would give a generic definition of Saturn and a generic definition of tea and then say something irrelevant like “scientists disagree about the exact composition of Saturn’s core”
Tea preparation rebels are not constrained by shallow concepts like ‘being edible’
Crude oil is texas tea, but mac and cheese requires milk not water.
milk is tea
I think I’ve seen mac and cheese cups that ask for hot water.
Do you people not put milk in your crude oil? I find it suits the subtle bitterness of Alberta tar to give it a wonderful but subtle aftertaste.
Coffee isn’t a tea, as you don’t boil it. If you boil it, you burn the coffee! That’s an extraction - you can steep it, but it’s better if you just push the water through at high pressure (which will royally screw up a tea).
Ah, pedantry in pedantry. So - now for Lemmy to tell me what I’ve gotten wrong :-D
Teas are generally not boiled, but steeped in hot water that was boiling a moment ago. I was going to say that cowboy coffee is boiled, but then I looked it up, and even then, the pot is pulled off the heat before adding the grounds.
I do boil coffee. One of us might be a coffee preparation purist.
I boil my coffee, and a lot of people do. Espresso and derivatives are rather new way of making coffee, the old way is by boiling a coffee.
Boiling green tea is also considered burnt, as green teas recommended steeping temp is 170-175, unless I misunderstood what you mean there.
No, that’s fair. Coffee at pressure is about 93 - 95°C… No idea for drip/french press/v60 etc. as I don’t use those For Aeropress, I’d wait until the kettle stopped making noise, that seemed to be a good balance without burning the oils.
Preparation futurist, Ingredient singularity:
There’s a singularity in that nebula.
I have never rewatched Voyager and I think I have to soon.
As miso soup enjoyer i can confirm it’s tea, because it’s relaxing & delicious
