I mean, I still totally probably would.

Back in my drinking days, I definitely would have taken her home at last call.

Yah, the rumor is that the north Koreans got ahold of cellphones with open web access for the first time in their life. So they immediately started watching all the porn and jacking themselves raw.

I hunt, fish, kayak, and camp. I also conceal carry when I’m not inside my house due to a few reasosns.

Moved recently, but my kayaking was in the deep South, often in swamps. I open carried a .22 single action revolver with ratshot when kayaking, strapped it to the milk crate on the back. There were water moccasins as thick as my forearm and I’ve heard of them climbing in a kayak.

Only time I’ve ever drawn my concealed handgun was when a mountain lion got curious after dark. It wasn’t afraid of me. I growled and hissed at it and it went away. It was wild.

When I’m in the woods I also carry a medical kit including epi pen and tourniquet, bug spray, a fire source, and water.

The thing I’m most afraid of in the woods are ticks, Lyme disease or alpha gal would be horrible. I treat my clothes with permethrin. There are bears, and I think there are mountain lions in my new home. Two legged predators in the woods is also always a risk, but a minor one.

I do agree that we need mandatory training and better gun control.

Not the OP, but I appreciate your ethical explanation.

I agree partially with you. I don’t have a moral issue with the killing of individuals who have engaged in particularly heinous acts: murder, rape, torture, extreme child and spousal abuse, white collar negligence/willfully allowing death to occur through inaction for pay, etc.

I just don’t trust the US or the states to ethically carry out executions, especially given their track record of executing innocent or low IQ individuals. So I’m anti death penalty. Life is cheaper than execution anyhow.

That being said, I don’t have a problem with certain kinds of vigilante justice or vengeance either. Especially vengeance for a loved one. FWIW, I’m not seeking vengeance, but I absolutely get it. Jury nullficaton should always be a right.

Anyhow, the news isn’t in, but I’m rooting for an ethical vengeance situation. He killed a fucking vampire, I hope he’s a hero with respectable views. Even more, I hope they never catch him. Either way the fucker is dead, and good riddance. I hope the other CEOs squirm, they need to either get right or go to prison.

We should be having this discussion in News.

Not getting into the ethics of poor/uneducated people eating endangered species. Everybody sucks. It’s unfortunate.

Turtle is fucking delicious. I’ve only had freshwater turtle from non-threatened species. Best way I ever had was as barbecue sandwiches using a crockpot recipe prepared by an old man. Seven kinds of meat in a turtle. Killed a snapping turtle in a stocked pond once and spent hours trying to recover it just so we could eat it.

Most mowers are four stroke like automobile engines, this includes pushmowers. Modern ones even have oil filters. Generally, riding mowers have two cylinder v-twin engines and pushmowers are single cylinder.

Two stroke engines are generally found on smaller things like chainsaws and weed eaters.

You mix special oil into the gas for two strokes. They do produce more smoke, especially when first started.

Aww, man. I only had two of my comments removed for my lack of civility.

Personally, I was having a lot of fun fighting with the vegans.

Can somebody get me a sad trombone?

You have your religion. Your religion says it’s not ethical to kill animals. I don’t believe in your religion.

Yup, omnivore. I’ve got the canines and binocular vision as well as the molars and gut to prove it. I like meat and vegetables. Your religion says it’s bad to eat meat. I don’t care about your strongly held beliefs: I think they’re a bunch of hooey.

I have no ethical or moral problem with killing as I do it. It’s not wrong to kill animals and eat them.

Hunting is pretty much built in to being human. It’s about the closest thing to religion I have left. Squirrel hunting is my favorite type of quarry. I get to sneak miles through the woods and explore.

Other than a few vegans that actually do a lot of camping and hiking, I’m far more connected to nature, my place in it, and the effects of climate change than most vegans ever will be. My family and I moved 700 miles this summer. Climate change and the future of my children and maybe grandchildren was a big factor that drove the move.

Again, you have strongly held religious beliefs that I think are bullshit. I also really dislike the sneering judgement I see so much of coming from your religion and people. It’s just like fundamentalist Christians in tone, stridency, superiority, and sanctimony. You’re not any better than me. You just believe some crap that I don’t. Again, just like the fundamentalist Christianity I grew up in. You know those televangelists that beg for money? That’s a mirror of the people you believe in. The people protesting outside abortion clinics? That’s your people with a different set of beliefs.

As far as climate change and greenhouse gases go, yup. Major problem. I’m actually reducing my impact, but, unless we tackle the industrial sources, an individual’s impact is a drop in the ocean at the scales that we’re talking about. Also, meat taken by hunting is about as low impact as it gets. Especially venison.

Exactly.

I enjoy hunting but I don’t glory in the killing. There is always a part of me that is sad when I kill. Even killing a rat or butchering a fish gives me a twinge. I don’t feel bad when I kill a mosquito, but do feel bad when I kill a black widow.

If I raise an animal to eat it, it will be properly cared for and have a good life and as painless a passing as I can make it.

When I take a picture of something I killed, I make sure blood or injuries are not visible. That is disrespectful to that life I took.

I recently killed a groundhog because it was being a varmint and digging up the foundation of my garage and chicken coop.

I tried to clean it so we could eat it, but must have hit the glands. The smell of the carcass was almost chemical it was so strong. They’re supposed to be good, but I’d never had to kill one. Harder to skin than a squirrel and they have super tough hide.

I had to toss it and it bothered me. Even though it was being a varmint: to me it is ethical to kill a varmint and not eat it. However, you should make use of that life if you can.

I killed a coon once as a kid and had to eat it after it was smoked. Not good. Never killed an animal again that I wasn’t going to eat except for varmints.

Varmints are animals out of balance. Rats and roaches are almost always varmints. Spiders rarely are. Overpopulated deer are often varmints. A groundhog out in the woods is just a critter, a groundhog digging out my foundation is a varmint. Cats are varmints when they are feral and killing wild birds, especially ground nesting birds.

Critters are animals in balance or domesticated.

Varmints are also almost always a species of least concern.

The environment would be in a much better place if people were more connected to their food.

Yah, I was pretty insulting. Removed for lack of civility. I enjoy venting my rage at holier-than-thou vegans. They hate the religious and fanatic comparison. I’ve dealt with a lot of religious bullshit in my life, so someone judging me by their religious standards tends to put me in a vengeful mood.

It’s been a year or two since I played with OSS CAD/CAM. It was still heavily lacking. QCad is only 2d.

I check it every few years hoping for improvement.

FreeCAD UI was still so bad it was basically unusable and I could not wrap my head around it. Horrible interface and totally unintuitive. I’m still not sure how to take a simple linear measurement. Installed a plugin that sort of worked to measure. That crap was designed by aliens.

The OSS CAMs can generate a tool path, but it is difficult and they aren’t feature rich. CNC programming puts food on my table and I need the speed and features of pro level software. If I was playing with a router and doing a lot of 2d stuff, I could make it work for that. Especially if my time didn’t matter.

If Mastercam would just port to Linux I would happily switch.

I’m a CNC programmer with enough computer programming knowledge to be dangerous but not actually contribute to the various projects out there. Sucks.

I’ll have to throw qalculate on my computer and play with it. I’m actually rebuilding our new little farm right now and am taking a break from machining while I put our home right. If our savings hold out, I’ll be building my own shop.

Running stock Android on my phone and use Jerboa for Lemmy, my computer is Windows 10 as Linux still is lacking in CAD/CAM. In particular, CAM at a professional level. My home server is running Linux, however. Been playing with Linux for a long time.

Wish Mastercam worked in Linux and I’d happily make the jump.

We try and only eat out as a treat. Almost all of our my meals are eaten at home as we work from home these days. Also, my wife is an amazing cook and her food is better than most restaurants. We usually have leftovers or a sandwich for lunch.

I’m not familiar with your currency symbol? What country do you live in and are the health standards low enough that eating from a stall is a concern? That’s a different situation.

I’m in the US, so food trucks, stalls and gas stations actually have decent standards. (Often, the cleanliness in these places is heads and shoulders above corporate chain places.)

I learned to always check the bathroom of a restaurant. How clean they keep their bathroom tells you a lot about how they keep their kitchen. Small, family run, places tend to have the best food and the cleanest bathrooms, in my experience.

Unashamed omnivore, fisher, and hunter here. Working on our play farm so we can source all of our meat ethically in the future. Taking active steps to prevent the suffering of animals we consume. Don’t have an ethical or moral problem with killing animals to eat them. Prefer to do it myself so that I know that I have done my best to minimize the suffering of the critters I kill.

I’ve been told I’m a raper and abuser.

fite me

I didn’t read OP’s statement as racist.

I think anyone with taste knows that a small non-chain restaurant, stall, or cart will have much better food than some corporate chain crap food made with industrially sourced ‘ingredients.’

Personally, I’m always looking for the small restaurants that serve food on Styrofoam or paper plates. Bonus points if it’s attached to a gas station or the owner’s little kids are in the dining room or kitchen playing and coloring.

Ethnicity doesn’t matter, it can be a barbecue joint or some sort of Asian culture I’m ignorant of.

You see a little kid quietly coloring in a booth by themselves, you know that shit is going to be good.

My second vehicle was a '97 Ranger with the 5 speed and I4. Drove it for many years, sold it when I got divorced, thought I needed a nice car when I started dating again. Kicked myself repeatedly for getting rid of it. Lost that car in a flash flood and replaced it with this Ranger.

'98 Ranger XLT with the V6. My fourth vehicle, lifetime. Keep her running tight, throws no codes. Recently redid all the gaskets from the intake manifold and up.

Added hitch and trailer brake system recently. Made the kayak/cargo rack a few years ago.

It pulled a two horse trailer with three pet potbelly pigs, giant fluffy dog, two kayaks on top, a bed full of tools, jump seat area full of fragile stuff, son in the passenger seat. 700 miles, 14 hours, 3000-3500 rpm at 70mph. Overdrive had to be off the entire time. Never stuttered.

I love that little truck.

I know so many gay and racist jokes as a result of my upbringing. I’ve only been able to convert a few. There’s alao a few I can still tell to the right crowd.

Yeah, it’s sick. I’ve always been amazed by how many people actually believe the company line and feel intense loyalty.

Once worked at a place that required everyone to show up 1.5 hours early to watch a video from the CEO cheerleading about “rationalizing” plants. Rationalizing was code for layoffs. Then they gave us buttons to wear about it. I tossed the first one in the urinal, real proud that there was a pile of them at the end of the day.

I think it’s normal and human to appreciate hard work and dedication. That drive makes us survive. Then it gets used as bait, the hook goes in, and people misplace that drive onto something inhuman. I guess it’s a successful strategy if you’re a no soul snake.

I got lucky, my father died when I was 4. My step father was good in spite of his religion.

That shit fucking sucks. I’m sorry for you. Sucks donkey balls.

Those things make us hard. We’re hard and take care of the ones we love. We make sure they don’t ever have to live like that. You sound tough, we’ll keep on going and loving. All we can do.