Wild. That’s a lot more brazen than I expected.
Yeah. Obv premeditated. Planned well in advance. Seems like he knew his routine. Had the right gear. Caught the casings. No hesitation or announcement.
The backpack though. Bit distinct.
Backpack could be a hand made cover that can be tossed or just stuffed inside the backpack. With all the planning that seems to have gone into this, it seems unlikely something that prominent would be overlooked.
Now I’m wondering who that guy is and how the company fucked him over.
My bet is on disgruntled family member who Mema’s cancer treatment didn’t get approved.
The amount of suspects is so incredibly huge that it’s a statistical miracle that someone else didn’t get him first
the more you take away from people, the more people there are going to be with nothing left to lose…
What a concept for a brand new game show.
“Who wants to kill a billionaire?”
🙋
“Amazing, you all won!”
I suspect the backpack contained a disguise or something. Dude was too much of a pro to not consider getaway.
Still. A gradeschool jansport can carry those same things and can be bought at any walmart.
Either way, my bet is this goes unsolved.
One of the first news reports said the cops have him on video at a Starbucks just prior, so he left “forensic evidence” plus his face on camera.
IF that’s true, they might get him. Anyone can buy a silencer with the right ATF background checks, so if he bought it legally, they’d likely have his prints.
If he wasn’t at Starbucks, or had a mask, or wore gloves, he’s in the clear.
Subsonic rounds with a silencer don’t necessarily short stroke the gun, but he looks like he practiced firing in that condition a lot. If he did indeed catch the casings, there won’t be a lot to catch him on. Maybe if he walks to a car later.
If the cops are right, they’ll catch him. If they’re wrong, I agree he won’t get caught.
Supposedly he took off on an ebike.
Are those only usable with credit cards? That would suck. Unless they take prepaid gift cards, then he would’ve had to buy one on the black market or something to be in the clear.
I mean… you can buy your own.
I’ve seen homeless people riding bike share city bikes before. Not ebikes, but I’ve also heard of homeless people boosting electric shared scooters as well, so it seems that someone this dedicated to his pursuit would have done the same and not used his credit card (or perhaps used a stolen one).
Ditched that in Central Park.
Premeditated. Preplanned. Preexisting: sorry sir, law enforcement can’t take your claim.
don’t worry, the reddit detectives will find him based on the backpack.
Where in that video did he “catch the casings”?
He didn’t. News says the casings had words written on them.
watch again and he’s manually having to cycle. He’s also very clearly practiced is manually cycling to reload. whether that’s because of the suppressor or because he’s modified the gun, the casing would be available to catch every time he cycles. he’s not snatching them out of the air, but when you manually cycle like that they would go into your hand .
I’m not convinced he was catching the casings. He seems to be correcting malfunctions.
That’s what I saw as well. He’s not catching the casings.
I was wondering if the gun were designed to hold the casing until it’s manually retrieved.
That’s a revolver
A revolver with a silencer?
Some guns, especially ones that have a tilting barrel (most pistols) can be finicky about adding a big weight at the end of the barrel. most surpressors nowadays have methods to sorta help counteract the weight, but the gun can still jam or not cycle if the ammo isn’t powerful enough.
in this case, it looks like they didn’t test out their setup well enough, and had to manually rack the slide to eject the spent case and chamber a new round.
I’m speculating it was this gun, single shot, magazine fed, bolt action, silenced
Welrods don’t really exist outside of video games and museums. You’re not going to see them on the streets or black market. It was almost certainly a homemade suppressor that caused malfunctions.
B&T VP9 and their Station six nine. Not saying it was that, but just saying they exist on the market today. So a welrod-alike can be had. But it would absolutely leave a paper trail as its a unique gun.
They’re novelty guns that aren’t generally circulating around. I’ve seen, held and shot some unicorns throughout my life but weldrods and clones are just too esoteric to really be out there. Spas 12, calico, mark 23, Glock 18, etc all fall short of the true myth that is a welrod, even with the modern production. I know someone who has a true SG44 and I’ve even disassembled a real HK G11 and checked out the XM8, still no welrod.
That would explain how calmed he seemed cycling it. He new it’s limitations, and expected it to happen.
Gun Jesus also disagrees
I think your are right. Depending on the type of pistol, they don’t all cycle nicely with suppressors. I’ve seen some suppressor/pistol combos where people have to manually cycle the slide, after firing, to chamber the next round a lot of the time.
He wasn’t, the police found two casings and two unfired rounds at the scene.
He’s using subsonic ammo and maybe a homemade suppressor. The gun can’t cycle with that. That’s why he’s racking it by hand and why he left both shell casings and unfired cartridges behind (because he over racked it).
A homemade can without a Nielsen (muzzle booster) device would certainly account for that. Since most consumer cans come with them by default.
Agreed
I think I have that backpack…
Gray, brown strap on top, very distinction top flap. It’s great for getting into and out of on the move, so I guess it makes sense.
https://www.peakdesign.com/products/everyday-backpack?Size=20L&Color=Ash
If it weren’t so expensive, this would probably become the best-selling backpack for a while.
Imagine thinking ftf was catching casings…🤣
I mean, he went to fucking Starbucks beforehand.
Silencers don’t work. That shot was heard 'round the world.
Silencers make the shot less loud, so it still drew less attention that it would have without a silencer becuse it sounded less like a gunshot and the sound didn’t carry as far.
Ah, that be a rare double troll. Bravo.
I’ve heard speculation that subsonic ammunition was probably used which would have made a silencer much more effective. That might explain the apparent misfires that had to be cleared, if the gun wasn’t designed for subsonic. I don’t know if this actually makes sense or not.
/woosh
Yup, my tired ass completely wiffed the punchline.
Haha get rekt loser!
Honestly, yeah. This isn’t even a disturbing video to watch. I’m proud of that shooter.
Okay, on second watch it is a little disturbing because of the scared bystanders.
Yeah, I know what you mean. I try and watch as many of the more high-profile police killings as I can to try and make sure I deeply feel the sadness and outrage, but with this one… I got nothin’
No map awareness whatsoever.
Hey ChatGPT give me a list of people, who were, or who have family who were denied lifesaving treatment in the last year; cross ref with people living in three hours drive.
That would be millions of results. It’s United Healthcare, the Walmart of healthcare. They ain’t paying anything they can get out of.
Yeah — I know. That was kinda the joke (poorly made it would seem)
And yes deny deny deny is their mantra
Well now he’s been denied…of tomorrow. Annie was poor in an orphanage, but at least she could sing about tomorrow.
How did you not understand that was the point?
What style gun is that, where he can catch the shell casing? I’m only familiar with automatics that eject the spent shell immediately after firing.
I’m speculating (wildly) that it was one of these. Bolt action silenced pistol
A suppressor takes some of the “umph” out of it.
With a (semi) automatic the slide uses pressure of the bullet exiting to eject and load the next bullet.
Even with a silencer, a standard 9mm cracks the sound barrier, unless you use subsonic bullets that move slower, which exacerbates the problems cycling.
Now there is the Welrod pistol which requires you to rotate the back of the gun manually, this makes the gun honestly “movie quiet” where it’s literally not noticable. Someone makes a new model now with the same style of integrated suppressor, it even comes with a more regular style suppressor for. The “movie quiet” one has to be sent to the company and rebuilt like every 300 rounds.
Something like what is used in the video would still be a noticable noise, not just immediately recognized as a gunshot. It’s just a regular semiautomatic modern handgun with a suppressor on it.
But he knew where the camera was too. He’s angled just right so it never brushes his identity. I get the feeling he knew the limitations of what he was doing, as he had enough time to make sure he got him.
That suppressor was to give him time.
I mean I didn’t see anything
The main mistake I see is that he didn’t put the gun inside of a plastic bag to catch the shell casings and minimize gsr.
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Do you have a source on that?
Thanks
The gun isn’t jamming, it’s just not cycling on its own, likely because of the sound modifications or because it is a bolt action.
My god, I can’t believe this. There’s a lemmy community for videos??
Wow.
That’s someone who planned this out. No rushing, very calmly aiming and shooting. Walking up slowly, even crossed the street at a walking pace at first.
They also used a surpressed weapon which requires manual recocking of the weapon.
Apparently his gun jammed between each shot and he was very chill/good at unjamming it. So, police think Mr Guillotine is ex-army or ex-cop.
Might not be jamming, if you use subsonic ammo and a big fat suppressor, it’s possible that there simply isn’t enough gas pressure left to cycle the action of the gun, effectively turning the gun into a bolt-action.
The guy certainly doesn’t look surprised by a jam.
Oh, is that what he was doing? I thought it was just not a semi-automatic gun or something, and he had to cock it each time (I am not a firearms expert lol). It seems that it might have even been hot and burnt his hand before the third (fourth? not gonna watch again) shot.
He was probably shooting subsonics, knowing they wouldn’t cycle the action. Silencers make a reliable gun unreliable by changing the gas system pressures. One way to make it reliable is to make sure every shot has to be manually cycled by shooting underpowered rounds.
Maybe he was doing the SPORT technique for unjamming commonly taught in the army at least
Idk what you guys are watching I didn’t see nothin
He was coming right for him!
Sonofabitch, it was ned and Jimbo wasn’t it?
Hard to tell due to the resolution, but it kinda looks like the vid is actually showing a seed that grows into increased healthcare access… all I see are lives being saved!
A society wide world of Warcraft quest, “Deal with 500 C-suite executives and unlock healthcare and housing as human rights for the server”
Nah. That’s just low resolution. We still live in the age of heartless capitolism. Some NEW asshole will take his place, and nothing will change short of an actual revolution.
When this new guy takes over, kill him too. Kill all the billionaires. Kill capitolism itself. THAT is the only way suffering for profit ends.
I think that everyone involved in the Healthcare industry, on the insurer side, will take a long deep pause and consider carefully the next time they decide to decline a request.
Lol no, they will just increase their security.
Easier to pay 5 low wages than 1 medical claim.
suffering for profit
Oh I like this turn of phrase. Not sure when I will steal it, but I surely will.
I mean BCBS and one other have unreasonably short timelimits on surgeries before they stop paying, so I am not so sure that this has done anything to deture the behavior
Well, think of it like a medication: start small and assess. If you didn’t get the results you want, increase the a dose!
Just someone who suddenly decided it’s time to take their coffee for a run.
So much for profits over people. The private security industry is going to explode.
Not the best way to tax the rich, but it’s definitely one way to have to pay money for being so rich. Immoral but progress I guess.
What’s nice about that is that there are only so many retired elite soldiers willing to work as private bodyguards. The more jobs available for them means they’ll all have to settle for a lower quality of skill.
Nobody wants to hear it but every time they say “Kill the rich” I just laugh.
How many Billionaires and CEOs do you think have to die before qualified immunity is extended to private security and bodyguards? Simply because the politicians know that once the rich are fair game, they are right there next to them.
You want Cyberpunk corporate extraterritorial privilege? Because this is how we get it.
“Didn’t you hear? Congress just passed a bill legalizing murder if you’re rich.”
“No, they didn’t - Oh, my God, they did! Just because it passed the House doesn’t mean the Senate will-”
“Really, Diane?”
“Okay, but the president could still veto-”
“Really, Diane?”
“All right, sure, but the Supreme Court… Okay, I get it.”
“Look, don’t take it so hard. If you wanna do something about it, just make a billion dollars and murder me!”You think it won’t happen/isn’t already happening anyway?
And the police already exists. The police’s primary job is protection of capital. If a strike happens, a business gets taken over by its workers, or squatters take over an unused home, etc, who comes in to protect the owners property?
Nope I do not want that, but it seems like we can’t help but keep stumbling towards that end. Like it or lump it we are making that dystopian cyberpunk future a reality. I liked blade runner too but I don’t want to live in it.
Police already only exist to protect capital. I imagine these CEOs will all up their security detail, most of whom are ex cops. At some point, in some states, they may be able to contract the police for their protection.
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I’ve lived in Kansas City for about 15 years, and I’ve seen a gun get pulled on someone once. SUV almost clipped a motorcyclist while making a left turn into the lane a little ways in front of us. Motorcyclist did a quick u-turn, caught up to the SUV, and pulled a gun on the driver. The driver quickly and frantically apologized, the biker shook his head and reholstered his gun, and got back on his bike and both drove off in different directions.
I started slowing down to increase distance when I saw the motorcycle do its initial u-turn, but I was pretty much trapped in the lane. I had my whole family in the car with me - I’d have been willing to testify after, but no way I’d be willing to put them all at risk to intervene. I was looking for ways to get us to safety, and was pretty much down to popping us up on the sidewalk to get around and get away if things got bad (it was rush hour, there was no room in the other lanes for us).
What I see of the drivers in the video is a) It’s early morning, and they’re paying just enough attention not to hit each other in a rush hour crawl; and b) they’re trapped by everyone else in the rush hour crawl. Not getting shot at this point (because you can’t tell he’s just targeting a CEO) means not getting noticed, because you don’t have good options for getting away.
They probably just didn’t notice, thought it wasn’t real, or just kept driving to not endanger themselves.
Open and conceal carry are legal where I live (in Texas, permit not needed anymore), and notice it fairly often. I’ve lived in bad neighborhoods where I’d hear gunshots about once a week sometimes (guessing gang shit). I’ve had a bullet come through my bedroom wall while I was sleeping once. I’ve also lived in rural US, where you’d commonly hear gunshots from hunters or people target practicing. I’ve known several people who’ve been shot (some survived, others have not).
I’m guessing it’s not very common to see guns in NYC though. I think carrying and gun sales are banned.
Imagine that… almost as if gun laws can make a difference.
I think you’re wildly overestimating how aware drivers are in the USA.
I live in liberal hipster paradise, Portland, Oregon (I say that completely unironically and lovingly). I don’t think I have seen a gun or heard a gunshot in town (except police as others have covered). There is definitely gun violence around, I just haven’t encountered it. I definitely have friends who have never handled a gun.
Get out of town, though, into a state forest or something, and you are bound to hear people out target shooting. Most folks do it safe places like quarries so they can shoot into a wall, but once and a while I come across a spot where there is nothing to stop a bullet but trees. As a person who does a lot of off trail mushroom hunting I think this is the most likely way that I get shot. I really wish there was some sort of training required to own a firearm.
A lot of people like to carry when they hike and camp too, which I think is as silly as keeping a gun under your pillow. Like, that is just asking for a terrible accident. In fact someone I know was shot and killed while out hiking and I can only imagine it was some kind of stupid accident or over reaction or something.
Sorry for rambling, this is my kind of everyday interaction with guns. PS, my partner and I own several handguns, an AK 47, a shot gun, and some rifles. Many of them were inherited and we never really shoot them anymore. It’s weird.
I hunt, fish, kayak, and camp. I also conceal carry when I’m not inside my house due to a few reasosns.
Moved recently, but my kayaking was in the deep South, often in swamps. I open carried a .22 single action revolver with ratshot when kayaking, strapped it to the milk crate on the back. There were water moccasins as thick as my forearm and I’ve heard of them climbing in a kayak.
Only time I’ve ever drawn my concealed handgun was when a mountain lion got curious after dark. It wasn’t afraid of me. I growled and hissed at it and it went away. It was wild.
When I’m in the woods I also carry a medical kit including epi pen and tourniquet, bug spray, a fire source, and water.
The thing I’m most afraid of in the woods are ticks, Lyme disease or alpha gal would be horrible. I treat my clothes with permethrin. There are bears, and I think there are mountain lions in my new home. Two legged predators in the woods is also always a risk, but a minor one.
I do agree that we need mandatory training and better gun control.
SEEING a gun? Uh, no. I think it would be hard to do that. Every cop has them strapped to their waist.
Now I personally haven’t ever seen a gun get FIRED, but every 4th of July I always wonder if I’m actually hearing gunshots in the distance. People would just assume it’s fireworks. You could go on a shooting spree. As long as there’s no visual witnesses, what’s gonna happen? Even if you know the difference in sound for fact, the cops won’t take that call seriously on the 4th. They’ll just assume you’re wrong.
Supposedly you can tell the difference between fireworks and gunshots by the echo; fireworks will be more of an echoey boom because they are up in the air.
When I grew up in a neighborhood on a downhill slide, I learned the difference was a firework will be a single pop with a very long (hour+) delay until the next one (fireworks were illegal in the city I lived in) but if you hear more than one pop its probably a gun.
Not all, quite a lot of fireworks stay on the ground. The big mortars usually go in the air though like you said, usually.
Regardless of what you may have heard, cities like NYC are not just full of gangs brandishing firearms on all street corners. In fact, firearm violence is higher, per capita, in rural areas.
So yes, there are millions of people who live in NYC that will never see a gun in their lives. The gun laws there are very strict, so people aren’t just carrying them around in the open for the most part.
What would you expect the drivers to do? Stop and film? Stop and risk their lives to engage in an altercation with an armed assailant over a situation they know nothing about? The smartest thing they can do is floor it.
You never see guns in NYC unless you’re a cop or a gangster. They don’t even allow people to carry pocketknives there if any part of the knife is visible, including the clip.
Yes, the vast majority of people who don’t own guns will go their entire life without seeing a gun, except maybe on a cop’s hip, or at a sporting goods store. Despite what the media would have you think, shootings are a rarity. There are 346 million people here, spread out over 3,796,742 square miles (9,833,520 square kilometers).
Are there Americans that go their whole lives together without ever seeing a gun in person
100% there are many who do. But there are many in rural areas or with certain jobs (and I don’t just mean law enforcement) who consider bringing their gun every day as routine as bringing their wallet and phone.
The US is a huge place, and the average day for someone working as a farm hand in the midwest could hardly be more different than the average person working an office job in NYC.
Depends how you define “without ever seeing a gun in person” though. Anyone who has seen a cop has seen one.
I had many family members with guns growing up. I’ve put holes in a lot of tin cans. Then I was in the military for awhile. If we don’t count seeing one strapped to a soldier or cop, I probably haven’t seen a gun in person more than two times in the past several decades, and both of those were the same relative showing me the same gun. OTOH I know with certainty that many of my neighbors own guns, even if I haven’t seen them.
I haven’t spent much time in NYC, but I’m sure there are lots and lots of people there who don’t see a gun often in any non-cop context, and many others who see or carry one every day.
It’s not RDR2, but I also don’t think there’s anything resembling a universal answer, even within a single city.
Regardless of what you may have heard, cities like NYC are not just full of gangs brandishing firearms on all street corners. In fact, firearm violence is higher, per capita, in rural areas.
So yes, there are millions of people who live in NYC that will never see a gun in their lives. The gun laws there are very strict, so people aren’t just carrying them around in the open for the most part.
Regardless of what you may have heard, cities like NYC are not just full of gangs brandishing firearms on all street corners. In fact, firearm violence is higher, per capita, in rural areas.
I’m not sure if you might have replied to the wrong comment, but this isn’t something I believe about NYC in the first place, nor something I implied.
Ah yeah I might have replied to the wrong comment.
It’s pretty rare in California and NYC outside of law enforcement. Some states have open carry, and even there, it’s rare, but the fringe folk have them.
What are you going to do if you see a guy with a gun shoot at people? Get out and tell him to not be such a bloomin’ rotter?
Oi! You got a license for that shooter ‘ere, gov’?
You can’t murder there, mate.
I’ve worked with a couple of New Yorkers and this particular area is usually (unauthorised) gun free. A shooting in Brixton is less of a story than a shooting in Westminster. That’s the best comparison I can think of. Manhattan versus the Bronx is probably similar. Also the gun has a silencer/suppresor on it. Above the sound of the city, your vehicle and the radio it would be possible to miss.
You never see guns except on cops, and this was at 6:45 in the morning in cold weather with a suppressed pistol. This whole scene took a few seconds as you just saw. This chain of events would look the exact same in any corner of the world. Nothing about this is exceptionally insane, except for the whole murder part.
Yeah, as someone who has driven in US cities before, I can 100% see myself half asleep, driving by at 6:45am on my way to work, and completely missing this scene unfold as I drive by.
A silenced gun just sounds like someone clapping their hands.
Depends…22lr with sub rounds. Sure. .45? No. Suppressors help with noise reduction but do not eliminate it to were you can not use ear pro. Caliber matters greatly, but %100 the pistol used in this being a 9mm was not as quiet as someone clapping their hands.
NYC is very loud just by default.
That too. Plus if someone is in their car, windows up, radio on. They’re not hearing that shit.
I didn’t say it was as quiet as someone clapping their hands, just that it sounds like that.
If you don’t have experience with guns, you probably won’t identify the sound as a gunshot.Ah, fair enough, and yes you’re correct. Most people wouldn’t be able to tell it apart when at a distance and not seeing an actual firearm produce the sound.
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I’ve got to be honest, if I saw that anywhere I’d likely drive on past. It’s none of my business, and don’t want anybody with a gun to make it so. Phone the police? Sure. Stop? Fuck no.
I always think of the scene from Last Action Hero where Charles Dance guns a man down just to test his theory.
“Hello? I’ve just shot somebody, I did it on purpose!”
Other people have answered, but it really varies from state to state and honestly place to place. There are plenty of people who could go their whole lives here without ever seeing a real gun. Meanwhile, I remember when they used to sell shotguns in Walmart out of locked cages.
And as to people not noticing, there’s a lot that goes into that. The guy is using a silencer and subsonic rounds as well according to other people, which are both meant to help slow a bullet down to a speed below Mach 1 so it doesn’t make a sonic boom as the bullet flies. A regular shot can be easily mistaken for fireworks going off (so easily in fact that in order to tell the two apart, you have to listen for whether or not the sound echoes), so a round like that could probably be mistaken for a truck backfiring or something a street over, if they can even hear it clearly at all inside their car. I live close to a firing range and can hear gun shots from my house most days, and they don’t sound that different from something like a nailgun going off at a construction project on a house on the same street.
People really don’t have that good of reaction time and should be paying more attention to the road in front of them then what’s happening on the sidewalks.
edit: Actually, I just remember an instance a few years ago in Times Square. A moped backfired and everyone though it was a gunshot and freaked out. So, no, these things aren’t really normalized and desensitized in NYC.
just driving down the street while some dude is getting shot to pieces next to them.
I mean, unless you can get to your own gun quick enough to save him (which in NYC is doubtful, they’re almost illegal there), you have a better plan than “get yourself to safety?” If you’re in a car driving down a street getting to safety typically means “don’t stop to chat with the gunman.”
To answer your second question (which I already alluded to), “depends.” In my area I see guns all the time, I carry one myself as a matter of fact and see at least one other person carrying a week (definitely more, most carry concealed like me, but then you don’t know about it.) In NYC, no guns aren’t a common sight, they’re seriously almost illegal in the city, you can’t get a permit don’t even try basically. Upstate it’s a little easier depending on the county, but still more rare than say my area.
I would say most people don’t see guns in scary situations(used for robberies or any illegal act) I’m in my 40s and have a gun, have friends with guns.only my family or friends that grew up in rougher situations ever saw one used illegally (including brandishing illegally) The person shooting has a silencer on their pistol. Illegal I think in NY. Contrary to media, it makes it more quiet, but not completely silent. Your ears will definitely hurt (and you may even dmg your ears) if you’re nearby, but people in cars may not think it’s a gun shot.
There are states that allow people to walk around with a firearm completely visible(can’t have a long coat that may cover it) but, to my understanding, people don’t like to carry in that way usually because it’s frowned upon.
The more conservative and rural the area the more you will see open carry. I’ve never seen my nextdoor neighbor without a gun on his hip.
My more liberal and diverse of a state allows open carry but the last time someone did it with a rifle the police followed them around until they stopped.
In NYC, guns are banned and unless you’re trying to find one, you won’t.
Edit: Except cops. Cops open carry everywhere.
With a suppressor and someone’s radio on, more than likely, they couldn’t hear it in a vehicle.
Can’t vouch for NYC but in Texas, where it’s fucking legal to carry without a license, it’s not uncommon, but I can go weeks without seeing someone openly carry. Concealed is way more popular, so hard to say how many actually daily carry.
Kinda like in L.A. knowing just how many guys are wearing chastity belts. Maybe none. But you don’t know.
Suppressed shots are still loud, just not deafening. Most people would think they’re fireworks.
Definitely not like the mouse-farts that silenced guns in movies make, though.
It’s legal in most states to carry without a license. As of 2024, 29 states have adopted “Constitutional Carry”. Only 8 states actually have a restrictive license. The remaining 13 grant licenses to anyone who is not otherwise prohibited from carrying. It’s more of a concealed carry registration than a license.
I meant to clarify conceal carry without license
Our cops carry guns on their waist and sometimes pull them for traffic stops so no, you don’t go through your life without seeing a gun. As far as carrying goes, many places outlaw open carry and require concealed.
That’s wild. I’d rather have concealed carry made outlawed. At least I would know which dangerous whackjob I should steer clear of.
Most places require a permit to carry concealed, and criminals don’t follow the laws anyways, so this is the best we have come up with apparently.
It can get wilder. The state where I live (in the deep south), recently amended the law so that you no longer require a permit to carry a concealed handgun. And they reduced the age for concealed carry from 21+ to 18+, as well as including non-residents visiting from other states. And I don’t live in Texas btw
It definitely made me more nervous after it passed. I mean, almost anyone can carry a concealed handgun now‽ Not even have to take a few-hour class, even simply to know the laws around concealed carrying? Not a fan knowing damn near anyone could be holding and I can’t tell who. It doesn’t help that I live in a high-crime city
Open-carry is one thing, I can see the damn thing. Now it really does feel like wild-west shit. Granted, I haven’t noticed an uptick in craziness, anymore than usual… but fuck, I don’t need Jim Bob feeling anymore emboldened to be a “hero”, while knowing jack shit about the actual law
It’s America. You should be steering clear of ALL the wackjobs! You know how you know which ones are wackjobs? They’re the ones breathing oxygen!
…we don’t have great mental health care over here.
Damn. The shooter was very calm and deliberate.
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He keeps racking the slide because the recoil spring is too heavy and the suppressor is too heavy in the front of the barrel to allow for tilting of the barrel during cycling of rounds. So he has to manually chamber a round each shot. All non fixed barrels have this issue as far as handguns go. A simple correct recoil spring swap maybe trial and error for poundage and this would have cycled normally.
Also to consider, this is New York, a state very hostile to suppressors (they are illegal). Knowing nothing about the man’s origins, he could have been a New York native, doing the best he could with what training he could get without raising red flags.
Good advise for the next guy!
I figured it was due to the spring. Long time ago I knew a guy who had a HK 45 with a suppresser. He had two additional springs. One for regular rounds with the suppresser attached and one for rounds made with less powder. Those were lower velocity and nearly silent.
Figured it was the suppressor, didn’t know why. You would think he would have tested a bit.
As an alternative he might have been going for maximum sound suppression. Locked breach suppressed guns are much quieter than automatic cycling. There are a lot of YouTube videos about shooting quiet. Once you’re shooting subsonic 10mm + rounds the loudest part is the escaping gas from the automatic cycling.
Not a bad take but doubtful. He’s in NYC people are everywhere as it is probably the most surveiled state in the US. Maybe DC. While I agree with the quietness its not ideal to have to do that. He got hit in the back and the calf. Wildly different parts of the body. A fully functioning tool when you need it is better than a quieter slow tool that is inaccurate and you have to fumble with each use.
Use the right recoil springs and test before hand and change ammo and springs if need be. If your in a pinch changing ammo type from quieter subsonic to +P could help cycle but won’t be as quiet as there’s more powder and recoil. Use the right tool for the job and learn. Don’t half ass your life sentence. If not use a revolver and be done.
If you rewatch the video it looks like he expects to need to manually rack the slide. He’s not phased at all.
I’m not saying going for a locked slide is the best approach. I’m just saying that it looks like he expected it. I don’t think anyone who is clever enough to evade being arrested at the time of the incident is dumb enough to not practice before hand. Particularly in the most surveilled state in the U.S.
He might have decided quietness is more important than follow-up speed when planning a close encounter assassination.
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This reads like a tarkov player offering their professional hitman advice. The guy got the job done lol
He may have been firing sub-sonic rounds in conjunction with the silencer/suppressor. Purely anecdotally but I’ve heard that that combination “can” lead to jams and the need for manual reracking.
Man my dad’s old squirrel gun (.22 semi) doesn’t cycle subsonics, and it doesn’t have a silencer, so that absolutely tracks.
Do you have more than one type of squirrel? In the UK you can bag as many invasive greys as you want (.22, twelve foot pounds of air - lol) but don’t ever hit a native red. The greys brought a virus (?) that has decimated our native reds.
TLDR: squirrel racism is promoted in the UK.
Edit: 12 ft/lbs is the legal limit for air rifles (easy to buy and operate) but it’s not unheard of for people to - illegally - up that. The only thing worse than missing vermin is injuring vermin.
We do, in Ontario we have grey squirrels and red squirrels, and same thing you can take I think 5-6 a day during the fall season, but no touchy the loud ass tiny redheaded Dingus that is blowing out your deer stand…
Also we have black Grey squirrels here, so I have been known to say to a red squirrel “hey friend. Don’t worry, shut up I’m not after you, but if you have any black friends…”
Then I die inside.
That’s a brilliant reply. Thank you. I’m really tickled by the “Got any black friends?” comment. Sentences to never take out of context and all that… I’m gonna do a little research now as I’ve seen one or two brown (?) squirrels which I always assumed were red/grey cross breeds. I take no pleasure in killing animals but it has to be done… (to anybody who might disagree with that last bit - sadly it’s a fact. It’s not an opinion. Without human intervention many species would cease to exist. We made a mess and now we’re trying to clean it up.)
It’s not really a jam if you’re just clearing the chamber, just means it’s a single action semi auto 😂
Yeah, single action is also a possibility but I was just following on from the previous suppressor / silencer comments and trying to add to that. Sub-sonic and silencer ( for a USian private citizen) is such a unique (and illegal?) combination that I’d be reasonably surprised if that was the case - but it is possible. That’s all I wanted to point out.
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He turned around and saw the future. In his final moments he knew what what was happening to him. He just might have briefly felt the angst he caused so many when they where told that he would let them die while he kept their money.
If not then I’m sure that if hell exists that he’ll have it “explained” to him in excruciating detail.
