• FireRetardant@lemmy.world
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    19 days ago

    Would you rather just let the kid be at the whim of the intruder? How much sympathy should a kid be expected to give to someone who broke into his home?

    This could have easily turned into a barricaded suspect with a hostage.

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        19 days ago

        The kid is 11, they probably don’t think much about the bigger picture in situations like this and hes probably just proud he’s alive and wanted to be funny cause hes on camera. I’d probably rub the bad idea in their face a bit to if someone broke into my home and threatened my family.

        It isn’t like this kid just assaulted a random guy, there was a genuine threat here.

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          18 days ago

          It isn’t like this kid just assaulted a random guy, there was a genuine threat here.

          And that threat was running away when the child shot him in the back.

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            18 days ago

            What sort of argument is that. Dude broke into a house. At that point he is a threat and doesn’t magically turn into a harmless person just because they turn around. They might just be jumping into cover to get their own gun. They might be running to a second burglar for help. The first rule in any emergency situation is your safety is paramount. Yours alone. A firefighter won’t jump into a burning building to save a puppy, a medic won’t risk his life to constrain a madman with a knife. They are there to do a specific job - and heroics only looks good on TV or in movies.

            Judging situations in hindsight is always so easy. Being in that situation is something else entirely. But it is better to be judged by twelve than carried by six. Again, your safety first - don’t administer aid on a running highway, don’t get closer to burning cars, don’t try to “save” someone getting beaten up. Don’t be a hero.

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              18 days ago

              There is a difference between not jumping into a burning building and not shooting someone running away from you. Once they’re fleeing, shooting them is not self-defense just because you’re afraid they might come back in the future.

              If you don’t believe that, when does it stop being self-defense? Maybe they’ll come back a decade from now, then surely it’s self-defense to break into their home and kill them in their sleep to protect yourself.

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        19 days ago

        As the intruder walked down the stairs, “he told me he was going to kill me, f-you and all that,” Chris said.

        The final shot hit the man in the leg as he was hopping the fence, the boy said.

        The man was taken to a local hospital with injuries that were not life-threatening.

        Context is everything and you don’t have any. I’d be mocking the meth head who tried to kill 11 year old me as well. This kid is a hero.

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          18 days ago

          Context doesn’t help - laughing at someone you shot is extremely disturbing behavior. 10x so for a child.

          The correct response is fear/adrenaline/panic or something to that effect.

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            18 days ago

            Can you tell me more about how context isn’t important in this circumstance?

            The child told news reporter this after the event occurred. We don’t even know whether or not he laughed like, “heh wow that was scary”. Or maniacally like the Joker.

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          19 days ago

          Wait the kid shot the man as he was trying to hop a fence and run away? Again, this is the behavior of actual psychopaths.

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        19 days ago

        Breaking into a house and threatening a child is pyschopath behavior.

        The kid is 11, he is going to need a long time to process what has happen. There was adrenaline pumping, genuine risk to his life and a culture of self defense. Did you expect him to suddenly grab a medkit and approach someone larger and older than him who may not be fully incapacitated and already threatened him?

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          19 days ago

          I don’t expect a kid to do much of anything after shooting a person, intruder or not, not mock them for being in pain of a literal bullet wound.

          Granted if the parents taught him how to use a firearm they should also have taught him how to use a medical pack because accidents can and do happen with firearms and he should be able to patch up himself or someone else if an accident does happen.

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            19 days ago

            No civilian should be approaching a wounder intruder. They could have a concealed weapon like a knife or a gun.

            When the intruder broke in, they probably had a tough guy attitude and that attitude changed real quick when they felt pain.

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              18 days ago

              I never said the kid should have actually gone over and given any kind of first aid, but he should still be taught basic first aid if his parents are teaching him how to use a gun.

              It’s still psychopathic to mock someone who you just shot.

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                13 days ago

                I was taught first aid in cub scouts by that age. I wouldn’t have done anything to help a threatening adult

                I don’t think I would have shouted insults at him, but I wasn’t raised on games where you shoot people