like, it’s caffeine and water and brown, who cares. i drink diet soda so it’s no calories, no sugar. versus the stereotype starbucks order, why is soda so demonized
the whole sort of basically woo stuff about oh there’s antioxidants there which give you a 3% lower risk of skin cancer after the age of 65 like come on that doesn’t count
Diet sodas are fine!
It’s not the same drink, your premise is flawed. Coffee has way more caffeine, is generally served hot, and most importantly, tastes completely different.
Diet soda is also still not good for you.
Although switching from regular soda to diet soda may save you calories, it’s not yet clear if it’s effective for preventing obesity and related health problems in the long term.
Healthier low-calorie choices abound, including water, skim milk, and unsweetened tea or coffee.
Basically, black coffee tastes better (subjective), has more caffeine, and is less bad for your health. Alternatively you could go the tea route but personally I prefer coffee.
The quote that you’ve included doesn’t say that diet soda is bad for you, only that it’s “not clear if it’s effective at preventing obesity”.
Healthier low-calorie choices abound, including water, skim milk, and unsweetened tea or coffee.
I like my coffee like I like my women.
Hot, strong, and a little bitter.
Imported from South America in sacks…
20oz of Coke contains like 15 tablespoons of sugar. Sweet coffee is healthier.
Edit: it’s teaspoons not tablespoons. I am wrong.
591.471 mL of Coke contains like 187.5 g of sugar. Sweet coffee is healthier.
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Actually I looked it up, a 20 US fluid ounce Cola has 14-18 [teaspoons] of sugar, 65 grams in normal units (for Coca Cola). So you completely botched it.
You’re right I did. My bad.
Corn syrup and chemicals but I’m not sure why people are downvoting your reasonable question
I downvoted because this doesn’t feel like a casual conversation, more like trying to start an argument.
Pineapple belongs on pizza
Right there with jalapeño.
Thank you. I thought I lost my craving for pizza but I just got it back!
People will try to tell you to add meat too, but nah, not on this one. Enjoy!
I was going to add meat but I just love meat.
Username, as they say, checks out!
You misspelled “Watermelon”
Yeah I guess depending on whether honestly asking a question or making a point. Coffee is a bean. There is no Pepsi bean 😂
Coffee isn’t even a bean https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coffea
Yea seed ok
“Chemicals” is a description for literally everything.
In this context I guess non-natural chemicals? Maybe the artificial sweeteners.
Additives?
In this context may also be relevant discussions among coffee enthusiasts who talk about this and that chemical process during the brewing process, lending it a bitter or rich taste – the coffee is full of chemicals.
I’m allergic to the word “chemicals” in discussions such as this, because it is too vague to define anything specific. It generally is used as a degradation of a thing that the speaker doesn’t like. But that’s all there is to it. The speaker can just as well say “I’m suspicious of this thing that you hold there”, and this communicates exactly the same thing, maybe with a bit more care about ones words.
The distinction between natural and artificial is just as arbitrary. All the “plant derived” non-sugar sweeteners taste super weird to me and some give me a headache
Exactly. That’s just marketing to groom the naturalistic fallacy.
they’re really proving my point. just this pure implicit bias for the stodgy adult drink that is functionally the same as soda - it’s liquid with caffeine
Lots of sodas, most in fact, doesn’t have any caffeine in them at all.
It’s filled with sugar man
You probably should’ve asked this in !NoStupidQuestions…
The two beverages are not the same. Coffee can be served with or without milk/cream and sugar, but even with sugar, it has far less than is in soda. It also has a significantly higher quantity of caffeine.
People aren’t downvoting you because you drink soda; it’s because you asked a dumb question with a ridiculous and blatantly incorrect take. Just drink soda and don’t worry about what other people think. There’s not some mass of people judging you. No one cares if you drink soda in the morning…
But it’s just preposterous to be claiming they’re the same beverage or that soda is as effective as coffee at waking people up. How about milk and soda? Are they the same beverage? What about root beer and beer? Your argument is just blatantly false and silly. That’s why you’re being downvoted.
i was under the impression that ‘casual conversation’ meant ‘not necessarily being chastized for asking a lighthearted question without literally citing sources like i’m writing a thesis’
You made an absolutely absurd claim. It didn’t seem like it to you, whixh is obvious now, but that was not a lighthearted comment more like it was a slap in the face.
At least, all the people responding seem to have taken it as a challenge
People downvoting your question proves your point? That’s all it takes? Then what the fuck have we been wasting our time for?
Someone, call science quick! We can save them so much time and energy if they don’t need to do all that rigorous testing anymore, they can just ask the internet and see if it gets upvoted and downvoted!
Call the judges and cops and lawyers! They don’t need evidence or proof anymore, we can all just vote and that will prove if someone committed triple homicide clear as day on camera or not!
Most sugar alternatives used in soda really messes with your guts.
and dna
People love their social norms. You wouldn’t believe the shit I got when I stopped eating breakfast. “Most important meal of the day!” I feel great fasting and don’t miss it at all. I’ll eat cereal for dinner. You have a fucking diet soda in the morning if you want.
Breakfast has always been my least important meal of the day… I’d rather have an extra 10 minutes in bed.
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Black coffee and tea are considered the healthiest options because no sugar, no sugar substitutes, no preservatives or other additives, and they’ve been used long enough that the health implications are well researched.
Diet sodas have ingredients that are considered safe in moderation by the FDA, but we are still learning about the long term effects of artificial sugars and different additives. There are caffeinated seltzers out there with just natural flavoring and caffeine. That would probably be a better comparison to black coffee and tea.
I think it’s fine. You do you.
Contrary to popular belief, diet soda is completely fine in moderation (like 20 cans per day limit), assuming your teeth/guts can handle the acidity. Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCDqqVwYMa4
Coffee typically doesn’t have much or any sugar in it. It’s caffeine, water, milk. It has more caffeine than soda so it feels better to take it in the morning
20 cans a day is moderation to you? Wow.
That’s the limit of safe intake.
You should spend some time learning how to vet sources. That’s not a reliable source.
I get that it’s a youtube video but Dr Mike knows his stuff. He goes through WHO’s recommendations and gives his practical input on the matter.
His background -
Cofounder of Renaissance Periodization, Dr. Mike Israetel holds a PhD in Sport Physiology from East Tennessee State University.
Currently a professor in the strength and hypertrophy masters program at Lehman College, Mike has taught several courses at multiple universities, including Nutrition for Public Health, Advanced Sports Nutrition and Exercise, and Nutrition and Behavior.
Originally from Moscow, Russia, he has worked as a consultant on sports nutrition to the U.S. Olympic Training Site in Johnson City, TN, and has been an invited speaker at numerous scientific and performance/health conferences worldwide, including nutritional seminars at the U.S. Olympic Training Center in Lake Placid, NY. Mike has coached numerous athletes and busy professionals in both diet and weight training, and is himself a competitive bodybuilder and professional Brazilian Jiu Jitsu grappler.
They’re both completely wrong. Hot chocolate is the sacred beverage of the morning, the holy breakfast.
If you ain’t chugging the glass of water off your night stand as the very first drink of the morning, y’all are missing out.
After that, I have a NOS. Energy Drinks are the socially acceptable morning beverage that isn’t coffee. Or orange juice. Or milk.
After that, I have a NOS. Energy Drinks are the socially acceptable morning beverage that isn’t coffee.
That’s how I got my first and hopefully last kidney stone.
what is a NOS?
Brand of energy drink with packaging designed to resemble a nitrous oxide tank found in aftermarket automotive industry.
Everything anout energy drinks’ branding screams unhealthy. Even their advertising is focused on partying and extreme sports, it’s like they want you to increase your chances of dying young.
That being said, the actual evidence of energy drinks being particularly unhealthy is kind of mixed.
They are indisputably unhealthy on account of the amount of sugar they contain.
There are sugar-free variants.
The main risk of sugar isn’t the calories themselves, but rather their effect on our fullness perception. That is, the more sugar we eat, the harder it is to feel full after eating something. This in return cases a vicious cycle, one that can easily lead into obesity. I don’t know if that same issue can happen with sweeteners but I don’t generally trust anything that tricks our senses to such a degree. I don’t consider coffee the holy grail either, it’s just that its negative health effects have been tested for ages and are acceptable for its overall benefits. But that’s my own risk assessment, with only my health in the line.
It’s hard to get a good grip on the health neutrality of diet soda when the companies who make them have lied to us about sugar for decades. Maybe sweeteners are just their next lie, who knows. Much of the research done on sweeteners is funded by the ones who profit from it. The food industry have far more power than anyone should be comfortable with them having.
Basically the same drink? How?
Cup of black coffee and a cup of cola look similar, I guess…
Sugar.
Or sweeteners, we know now that Aspartame is bad for your health.
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We don’t. It’s been studied for decades and all they could come up with was that “in massive quantities it’s possible it might cause cancer”. Which is shit. Everything in massive quantities breaks something.
It’s not recommended to intake more than 40mg per day per kilo of body weight. For a kid that could be two cans of coke.
I hope no one is giving their kid two cans of coke in a day, but I bet you a thousand pounds that they are.
here’s a link for anyone interested
Breaking news: everything gives you cancer (possibly)
So… you should like… avoid obvious signs of it? We have little wiggle room? wdym by this dog there’s defiantly an area between cancer riddled and 100% healthy
That WHO study is highly problematic. It has some fairly serious methodological flaws. It’s been disputed by the FDA. It is biased due to the panel comprising:
eight WHO panelists involved with assessing safe levels of aspartame consumption who are beverage industry consultants who currently or previously worked with the alleged Coke front group, International Life Sciences Institute (Ilsi).
