I love me some mango curry
Not sure if this comment was made in good faith (perhaps this is why someone downvoted you), but I would like to think that there were no ill-intentions.
Yes, we do have mango curries. Us Tuluvere eat the Mangalorean-style Kukku da Kajipu (literal translation: Vegetable of Mango, normalised translation: Mango Curry). It is truly a vegan dish, and it tastes amazing.
If you want other recommendations, then this is a must-try: Pelakai da Gatti (literal translation: Dumpling of Jackfruit, normalised translation: Jackfruit cake). Another amazing vegan dish - it is just that you have to substitute cow’s ghee with coconut ghee.
And there’s also stuff like dosæ and idli, which are also vegan, as long as the cow’s ghee is substituted. Sorry if I didn’t use the original script here, my language still does not exist in the Unicode.
Yeah I wasn’t kidding, I tried mango curry before and it’s awesome. Also this interface doesn’t show downvotes.
I love Mangalore foods. I’m a big fan. I need to explore local dishes next time I’m there
Personally I’m a non-vegetarian, although I don’t eat that often, so I’d recommend sea-food any day.
Both are good but fake meat is the Pinnacle of processed foods
“Fake meat” is a broad term that can be more or less “processed” depending on your preferences. I made some teriyaki seitan last night that was basically high-protein bread with herbs and spices.
https://www.myplantifulcooking.com/meaty-vegan-seitan-chicken/#recipe
I was lucky enough to travel to India once, and try some great food … I wanted to be vegetarian while there, simply because it was so good. The guys thought they were being helpful pointing out meat dishes everywhere we went, but it was typically an afterthought on the menus, not well prepared, not worth eating.
— In an American restaurant the focus is on meat and it is well prepared so that’s what I’m looking for
— in my limited experience with restaurants in India, the focus was on foods that didn’t have meat, and was very well prepared, so that’s what I’m looking for
As long as the vegetarian option is a substitute, or an option, or doing without, rather than the focussing on a good meal, most of will have no reason to select it, no reason to expect it to be a good choice
My only problem with Indian food. Whenever I try a restaurants it’s shit. But when my coworkers would bring in a feast on Diwali, it was my favorite time of year.
I can’t find any restaurants that taste even similar to their home cooked meals.
The best indian food I’ve ever had from a restaurant was from a truck stop in the middle of nowhere off I-80 in Nebraska.
That’s my experience as well. The food my Pakistani friend cooks is amazing but when I order the same thing at a restaurant it looks delicious but it tastes like poking your tongue out the window. I guess restaurants has to cater to western palates to make money and many westoids have very low spice tolerance.
That’s because you can’t beat home cooked meals.
I don’t know what country you’re in, but lots of Indians in the UK are actuall run by Bangladeshis and the food is a bit middling. Once you find a good one you become loyal.
Dude fuck off. Bengali cuisine is great.
The food those Bangladeshis serve aren’t generally Bengali cuisine, but rather what sells.
I’m sure actual Begali cusine is fantastic. Bengalis half arseing Indian dishes not so much.
That may be more of a problem with the restaurants where you live. I live in San Antonio and we have dozens and dozens of exceptional Indian restaurants where everything feels like it’s a home cooked meal. I definitely miss Diwali before the pandemic though. My old company had a lot of Indian workers and the spread of food they would bring in was always incredible.
Yeah, the same goes for Korean food. I think a lot of it has to do with the quality of produce. In the west produce is often picked before it’s ripe because we have to ship it hundreds of miles. They also tend to change the spices and sweetness to accommodate western pallets.
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usians cannot imagine consuming a treat that does not involve murder. They will literally pay a premium and spend billions in R&D to get non-murder treats to taste more like murder.
Holy shit, there are still dinks out there that are trying to make “USian” a thing? I thought all of you nad-nudgers died of with kuro5hin.
Clearly it should be Americunts
When people complain about vegan diets lacking in x, y, or z I always point out that our diets are culturally balanced, as well as being balanced by the addition of vitamins to staple foods. If we all became deficient in say, iron, we would start fortifying iron in our water, flour, salt, rice etc, while at the same time we would culturally move towards eating more black beans and spinach than we currently do. When an individual removes a food group from their diet, it’s only reasonable that you will have to intentionally rebalance your diet in other places. This isn’t a deficiency inherent in a vegan diet.
If you have to supplement a vitamin or mineral that’s just part of your diet, so don’t @ me with your natural=good nonsense.
The only thing vegans need to supplement with is B12. Everything else can be had from a balanced diet.
Also Vitamin D. You are not doing shit with merely getting sunlight, without having some D2 or D3 in body to breakdown and fuel. That comes from dairy for us Indians.
Once you discover nutritional yeast it’s hard not to get enough B12.
Don’t forget Monster energy drinks! /s sort of. I take a supplement though lol
Depends. Not all nutritional yeast is B12 fortified
Thanks for the warning, didn’t know that was a thing!
Nooch does not contain B12. It is sometimes added to it, perhaps even often in the US ? but in the EU for example I’ve never ever seen B12-fortified nooch.
Engevita Nutritional Yeast has B12 right on the front of the packaging. It’s the most common brand in the UK. We’re not in the EU anymore sadly but it’s been the most common brand (only brand really) here for well over a decade now.
Oh really? I didn’t know they made it without. I just checked mine and it says it has >100% of all the b complex vitamins in a serving (2 tbsp). I do live in the US but I got mine online.
India has some bomb-ass food.
And some people get bomb-ass because of that food /jk
we ate burgers with i think corn-based patties once. actually tasted better than a burger imo. definetely a carnivore, but the vegans sure have some dope alternatives.
edit: omnivore would be more correct
I’m vegan for a while now and live in Europe. In the past, vegan options were creative and often good and now it’s this fake meat all over. I wish I lived closer to India then to America
You really don’t want to live in a country close to India.
I was speaking metaphorically but I guess you are right when taken literally
I do wish Indian food was more easily available anywhere in the world, both meat and veg versions but nonetheless available
There are some dishes from every cuisine which are universally loved and should be available universally too.
But what you said… isn’t a metaphor, and the tone of your comment does not hint towards anything but a literal interpretation
What I wanted to say is that I like the Indian way according to the meme better than the American and my home country is tending towards the American. I wanted to hint to that by complaining about it in the first part
Water is a chemical. Salt is a preservative This is fucking stupid.
and they’re both delicious, nothing wrong here except animal exploitation
Indian food most often is vegetarian but definitely not vegan, in my experience. Also: It often seems to be colorful mud. Some parts of the dishes tend to be way too hot.
Yeah I don’t get the whole “replace meat with a vegan steak” idea. Just prepare a delicious Dahl, the recipe of which has been around for hundreds of years!
They’re not made for people like us who have been veggie or vegan for years and have learned to cook with pulses, legumes, etc. They’re designed for people who want to cut back or give up meat but have to break the cultural training that every meal needs meat. Also they allow casual food places that don’t have professional chefs like pubs, cafes, etc to have quick and easy veggie options on the menu.
Hmm I was 27 years a meat eater, advocating for meat consumption in the face of a vegan mate. Saying things like “we need a little bit of meat in our diets…they’re killed humanely…etc”
Took me one moment of realisation, then I dunno, I just tried, not even that hard, vegan 7 years now.
I can see that the transitional foods are a good stepping stone, but imo, the second you see inside the animal agriculture industry without any blinders on (biases), you’ll choose to act within your life, if you have the compassion/empathy to.
If someone sees the reality of what goes on behind closed doors and continues to consume animals in much the same way, it says more about that persons internal morality than anything else.
I think there’s a more commercial aspect to it. It’s cheap processed food, and in fact it’s often cheaper than meat-based processed foods. The real offense is that they charge more for it.
As someone who has seen both made, I think the prices are what you’d expect against materials and work involed. Plant-based meats require more ingredients, with more sourcing, and more processing. And then fewer are made and sold overall (economics of scale).
And people don’t realize, the subsidies hurt a lot of the manufacturing chains that are pricemakers for the meat. Ranchers have to pay the infamous feed tax when they sell their meat, which funds one of the biggest subsidies in the farming world, only paid out to the largest factory farms. Because mega-factory-farms can’t actually afford to charge the prices that ranchers charge, what after all those massive bonuses the top couple people make.
Plant-based meats require more ingredients, with more sourcing, and more processing.
You’re just using an animal to perform the processing instead. I wonder why poultry or beef isn’t required to list all of the antibiotics or growth horomones that those animals were fed as included ingredients.
You’re just using an animal to perform the processing instead
Which they do efficiently. There’s no grass in the resulting meat, or feed, or sunlight. That’s why they’re not on the ingredient list. And water is in everything.
I wonder why poultry or beef isn’t required to list all of the antibiotics or growth horomones that those animals were fed as included ingredients.
Per the Iowa Farm Bureau, because there ARE NO antibiotics or residue in the resultant meat. An ingredient is something actually in the product. Nobody says there’s gasoline in your food vegetables because of the harvester, or insects in your vegetables because… well there actually are!
As for growth hormones… nobody has to say there’s growth hormones in it because they’re everywhere. Beef from a hormone-treated cow has thousands (to millions) of times less growth hormonesthan many plant-based products like peanuts or soy flour. Nobody has to list Estrogen on soy milk.
Animals do not produce food efficiently. It’s not like everything put into an animal is converted into edible flesh, not even a tenth of it is.
They produce meat more efficiently than any artifical process, especially any process line using nuclear medicine (what businesses are trying now).
And for what it’s worth, there is no other mechanism that converts indigestible starches into highly digestible proteins efficiently.
It’s not like everything put into an animal is converted into edible flesh, not even a tenth of it is.
The typical chicken caloric conversion rate is 2-5x. That means 10000 calories of feed produces 5000 total calories that are higher quality than the feed was, about 2000 of those calories is meat, where the remaining 3000 is used for other purposes, like creating broths. This is incredibly, miraculously efficient.
Real-world numbers seem a bit better. 100-320kcal/day (more in winter and as they grow) per day in feed, and produce 2500 of straight meat after 40 days. That looks like more like 4x conversion than 5x.
Egg-laying chickens have a ramp up (where you feed them but they don’t produce eggs), but then produce an egg almost daily. That’s 80 calories in eggs for 260-340 calories in feed. (so almost 100% return on the extra cals). And yes, you can still eat the chicken when she’s too old to lay eggs. She’ll just be a bit more tough.
So if you’re comparing the production of meat to burning gasoline, then no chicken is not as efficient. If you’re comparing it to any food-related process (or hell, many mechanical processes), it’s downright jawdroppingly good.
Compare to corn. Only 10% of the calories in a typical grain crop are edible by humans. You’ll never guess what we use most of the other 90% for.
I love both, I’m not sure I know any real person who thinks this is a competition
That’s because this meme isn’t about veganism at all, it’s about anti west narratives
Same, it’s nice having more options. Apparently that’s a bad thing according to some.
It’s not enough to be vegan, or enough to tell people you are vegan. You have to be a better vegan than them.
You have to be a better vegan than them.
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