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I sometimes use Element. Can confirm, it’s pretty good. I wish more people would give it a try.
Just waiting for them to add proper audio call support, and I’ll convince even my mom to switch
Yes! Just downloaded a client for it and can’t wait to try it!
Matrix with a WhatsApp bridge is the way to go. I’ve had it since over a year, and it works like a charm.
How does this work?
an android emulator has whatsapp and matrix bridge set up, bridge reads it, and then the bridge sends you the whatsapp message to your matrix front end client(element or whatever) official documentation https://matrix.org/blog/2019/02/26/bridging-matrix-with-whatsapp-running-on-a-vm/
Thank you :) That looks really interesting
You need to host your own server and then install the software for the bridge.
I think it was this one https://github.com/mautrix/whatsapp but no guarantees
Isn’t the file limit 25MB these days? And yeah, I remember Skype having no limit on that but I also remember it taking an eternity and a half to transfer some of those files.
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so true
Recently I wanted to transfer one 20GB file to my brother and I ended up using FileZilla.
But before that I tried some quick effortless solutions (like opening Skype/Teams and using that) and I failed.
I miss opening the IM app and quickly transfer something.
The fucking bane of my existence I swear, all my homies hate filesize limits.
Fortunately we have a few options, some better than others, and if it helps one person Imma talk about it now.
Magic-wormhole: My favorite, CLI client that shares files from your computer to a server to be downloaded with a password you send through your normal means of communication. No filesize limit, files stay on the server for 1h unless downloaded (deleted after download.) For sensitive information I would PGP it before I upload but I have trust issues.
Warp: Magic wormhole, but GUI. Second favorite, only because I love my terminal so much. It’s literally just a GUI wrapper for magic wormhole though so no complaints from me. Works on windows too iirc, and the android wrapper for it is called just “wormhole” alone, no “magic.”
Onionshare: Sends files directly from your pc to theirs, works through Tor. I have gotten it to work before, but sometimes it hates me and refuses to connect, usually when I try to DL from mobile.
Soulseek: Not exactly private, but it works if you can forward a port. If you need privacy you’ll have to mark the files as private, probably name them something nondescript like “file1,” and set it so only your trusted buddies can download it, then whitelist the buddy you want to share it with for that time (would have to remove trust for buddies by default, only enabling the ones for the current file to be shared, then swap that again next time. Like I said it “works” but it’s far from ideal. Would also PGP them files to be safe.)
Torrents: well we all know this one, it’s the classic!
I’m probably forgetting some/don’t know some, so anyone else feel free to add!
The classic would probably be plain old FTP, but SFTP/SCP/SSH works fine as well.
When I need to share files to newbs I usually just use a small Node script to host an HTTPS server from terminal, and give them a file link
I remember being shown FTP back in high school and finding any reason at all to use it, in spite of the fact there were better alternatives for my friends to access certain files, especially considering I probably got the shit of Kazaa anyway. But we FTP’d, and it was slow most of the time, or slower than any of the shares, but it felt good.
For what it’s worth at least they raised the limit to 25 megs. Still sucks though.
This is limitations of scylladb and their api service requirements.
They haves something called a service agreement. That means the API is required to respond in 99% 99.999% etc. and by limiting to 8mb for files, charging for a bit more etc. they can both monetize and enforce guaranteed api requirements internally.
Jami can send unlimited file size
Skype and aim could transfer even more than that, skype can still do way more than 2GB
Bro fuck discord
Honest question: how come?
The thing that did it for me was the updated privacy policy scandal about how they could now store all the contents of voice recordings. Now they know exactly where I live, how much I make, everything. Never paying for Nitro again, and my activity there plummeted.
Why is everyone celebrating that companies are starting to keep voice recordings and chat records of users? It is mad.
Because is proprietary and they’ve been making bad decisions like removing discriminators. Try out https://revolt.chat or https://matrix.org instead.
Dont forget they also harvest quite literally every single piece of data they possibly can about you- and if you install their app they collect information on everything else happening on your pc as well.
Oh and the admins have been exposed as groomers and their platform is absolutely infested with pedophiles in general.
That’s like… any platform ever tho?
I was going to ask “every platform is run by groomers and is infested by pedos?” but then I realized how close to true it is…
No sense in fighting the ‘everyone collects and sells your data’ point however, considering yes- they all do, but some do far far more harvesting than others…
25Mega Bites now
😬🦷🪥
This is the reason I’ve never used discord outside voice chatting with friends a few times per month.
A basic photo from my phone is over the file size limit. It’s essentially unusable, and I’m not going to get me and my friends and family to all pay a subscription for a feature literally every other chat app provides for free. Sorry.
I fully expect Discord to pull a spez sometime in the future. Probably not as destructive and blatantly anti user as that asshole, but bad nonetheless. Gotta remember that even if it’s already self-sustainable with the current nitros, investors want ROI and they want it NOW.
A photo shouldn’t be over 2 MB either. Compress them.
Compression ruins good photos.
Do I look like I know what a jpg is?
Goddamn 🌭
I have supported Discord with a nitro subscription for as long as I’ve had an account. It’s a terrific program and there’s no reason to expect premium features for nothing in return. The mentality that everything should be free is why we have so many fucking ad driven online business models and I’m over it. I pay for what I use if it’s a good service.
That’s the same reason I do. A place for friends to hang out online free from ads and algorithms manipulating the conversation is such a rarity these days. All the features they give you for free are nice enough I don’t mind tossing them a few bucks for a theme and an animated avatar hat. Hopefully if enough of us do, we can avoid the enshittening.
That 8mb limit was annoying though. Glad they raised it.
it’s amazing that you’ve been downvoted for saying you pay for a service you use that’s not ad-riddled junk. how else do people expect these entities to make money that pays for servers, employees, etc.? someone operates the hardware and it’s not free.
A basic photo from my phone is over the file size limit. It’s essentially unusable
For a while this was a problem, but now Discord just auto-compresses photos over 8MB. Obviously this isn’t ideal if you want to actually share the full-size image, but for most use-cases a compressed photo is fine. Almost every other chat app is also compressing your images, it just isn’t telling you it’s doing it outright.
When did they start this? Because I last tried a few months ago to send a photo and it was telling me it was too large, and to buy nitro. It was ~8.6MB
Only the phone apps auto-compress, the desktop and Web versions do not.
Years ago, as far as I can tell. Are you using an older version of the app maybe? I’ve not had Discord outright refuse to send pictures for ~2 years now, for a while it would ask to compress them, now it’ll just automatically compress them (unless it’s so big it can’t of course).
Back in April they also increased the limit to 25MB, so even less stuff should need to get compressed anyway.
I believe it doesn’t always work for whatever reason. I had images from my phone get the ‘over 8mb’ message sometimes only a few months ago as well, sometimes it worked but other times it didn’t
Maybe he send the full file and not just the photo via the photo option.
Discord’s monetary scheme is so backwards. Pay to be able to upload a file greater than 8 MB… up to 100 MB. Pay to be able to upload and use animated emojis, pay to be able to use emojis from other channels. These are not features worth paying for.
A loooot of people seem to completely disagree considering how many people pay for nitro even after they removed discriminators (and the ability to change them with nitro).
What would you suggest Discords monetization system be instead?
Tbf, the Skype file transfer was shit
Tbf all P2P file transfer back then was shit.
Torrents tho
Hard to disagree but with internet we had back in the day it was hard to send large files with just about anything
It was internet that was shit back then. File transfer didn’t change.
This was because Skype’s file transfer was Peer-to-peer, so it wasn’t Skype itself hosting the files. While discord is actually hosting the files, which is much more costly.
Wish Discord would implement that for direct messages at least.
Well discord could offer P2P option with no limit…
But then they can’t force you to get Discord Nitro.
This could be a nitro feature though
I’m guessing they don’t do it because it would take about 5min before people have written filesharing bots like the IRC XDCC bots of old.
That’s a great idea for Nitro Plus!
- Executive somewhere, probably.
Yeah but then no nitro no money no servers for chatting no discord discord ded :/
That sounds like a potential security risk.
But discord supports sending messages to people who are offline. It kind of breaks the paradigm if certain features require full synchronous communication. Maybe supporting p2p transfers during a video / voice chat would work though.
It kind of breaks the paradigm if certain features require full synchronous communication.
you mean like voice/video chat?
Actually yeah. It feels like voice / videos were kind of tacked on. There isn’t a really good web based chat tool that doesn’t require some sign in and configuration. File transfer isn’t like that and people can easily drop links to third party services in any chat.
You say it as if not allowing people to send large files at all is somehow better than only allowing it sometimes.
Still bullshit 18 years later.
You can set up your own FTP server if you really care.
