• RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    I grew up raising chickens among other animals. Poop and feathers on eggs was the norm. This ‘50s processed white bread, white sugar, clean eggs, etc. that was the sign of “progress” I guess IMO has done more harm than good in some ways.

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    11 months ago

    I still don’t get why you wouldn’t still put those eggs on the refrigerator. They will stay fresher longer!

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      11 months ago

      Fresh eggs at room temp will stay good for 2 - 4 weeks at room temperature, 3-6 months refrigerated. If you need to refrigerate fresh eggs, you have too many chickens

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        11 months ago

        Eggs don’t instantly degrade from good to bad overnight. They slowly degrade with weakening membranes and what not. As I said, they stay freshER.

        I get unwashed eggs from a farm whenever I can. I still put my eggs in the fridge. And the yolks stay nice and unbroken when making eggs over easy, as I like them.

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    11 months ago

    Am American living in the city with 8 chickens. The only scary thing is seeing eggs in the market go for $10/dozen

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      Wow, that’s crazy. It’s €4.49/10 here tax included for the fancy free range, low volume farm ones from a not-cheap supermarket.

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        11 months ago

        Miss living near the Amish. They have these cute big families with so many children and agricultural stuff for low prices. I would love to convince them to somehow some way homestead in my city.

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          Funny, as someone who works intimately with them I find myself distrusting them. They are great at putting on the “old timey, super genuine sweet Christian folk” persona but don’t get it wrong. Their ideology spreads like a cancer around here. They breed like crazy, buy up all the private land, displace other locals with their farms, eschew environmentally friendly agricultural practice to save money, their buggies destroy the roads and cause terrible fatal accidents. It’s not to say they’re all bad but they’re absolutely a highly insular cult and they have no problem turning on outsiders to further their society.

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            buggies destroy the roads

            How? I’d always heard that heavier vehicles do more damage to roads, so I’d expect buggies to be on par with bicycles or maybe motorcycles.

            cause fatal accidents

            I’m curious about this one, too. Do they tend to drive erratically? I’d think their slower top speeds would make it easier to avoid accidents.

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            displace other locals with their farms, es

            Meh I am not sure how people stuck on old tech are so much better at farming that they can outcompete modern farms. How bad at your job can you be to have your ass handed to you by the 17th century?

            Kinda getting tired of the whole “my life sucks because I am lazy let me get angry at people who are actually successful”. Tall poppy syndrome is running rampant, especially in rural America. You can thank me for paying for your roads btw.

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    Am american and this: eggs is what I have in my fridge right now. Rural living win.

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      Wait, why fridge? I thought they last at room temp if they still have the chicken butt juice. Do they last longer cold?

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        I still put farm fresh eggs in my fridge because it’s just a lot more convenient to store eggs in the fridge than on my counter where I have more limited space

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            My fridge is designed to store food and has multiple shelves and drawers. My counters are a flat surface area and I’d rather keep them clear for active uses like cutting, prepping, etc.

            There are also appliances competing for space on the counter like coffee machines

            I guess there’s the pantry but it’s also just that I’m used to keeping them in the fridge and it’s not like it hurts them to go in the fridge.

            Anyway, point is it’s really not that weird to keep them in the fridge

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        Yeah I suppose I could store them at room temp, but I figure they last longer in the fridge and I’m not really hurting for space.

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      11 months ago

      OP, that’s what it would’ve looked like. Your eggs been industrially washed. What a moron is that OP.

  • I don’t really know if there are laws about not selling eggs like this. Are there? I understood the practice of washing and sterilizing eggs came about as a marketting thing, b/c Americans tend to buy based on superficial appearance, and washed eggs sold better.

    Is egg-washing mandated?

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      About 60 percent of the eggs sold in the United States come from processors who participate in USDA’s grading service, voluntarily paying to have their eggs graded so the eggs can display a “USDA Grade A” or “AA” shield on their cartons. The grade is based on qualities that can be observed in the shell, yolk, and egg white when the egg is inspected with lights and other specialized equipment. Specifics on egg-grading criteria can be found here.

      Egg processors who participate are required to spray-wash their eggs with warm water and use a sanitizing rinse and air-drying techniques specified by USDA’s Agricultural Marketing Service (AMS).

      https://tellus.ars.usda.gov/stories/articles/how-we-store-our-eggs-and-why

      FYI multiple studies have found that there is no safety benefit to washing. It just looks nicer, and people think it’s safer.

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          Yeah, as an American I’m surprised it’s only 60 percent. Pretty much anything I’ve ever seen available to me has been washed/graded/refrigerated. Maybe farmer’s markets? But no way do they have 40 percent market share. I’ve occasionally had friends with coops so I’m not unfamiliar with having shelf stable eggs, though.

          At this point I think the thing that’d freak out Americans the most is the whole thing about not needing to refrigerate. It’s ingrained now.

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    11 months ago

    Just out of curiosity, taking into account feed and care for the chickens, how much would you say each egg costs?

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      we raise keep chickens. did the calculation a couple years ago (eggs/week / feed/week) and it was essentially break even, but I think the eggs are better (store bought eggs have super pale yolks). We feed them a mix of feed and kitchen scraps (trimmings of produce etc). Now its a good price from what I read in the news, but if you include labor, its probably not worth it or you would pay yourself next to nothing.

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    11 months ago

    You can wash eggs at home (only) if you immediately use them afterwards.

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    I want my eggs washed because I deal with enough shit, literal and metaphorical, in my every day life, that I dont want to start my day off with it during breakfast.

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      11 months ago

      Most of us don’t and many of us are skeeved out by this. I recognize that it’s stupid and these eggs are fine, but it still makes me feel gaggy looking at them.

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    11 months ago

    There’s plenty of things to make fun of the US for, but this isn’t one of them.

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      Yeah I know it’s tongue in cheek, but the mocking should really go the other way, haha. Look at our washed American eggs that scare the Europeans who are used to two orders of magnitude higher incidences of salmonella:

      “Overall, egg contamination from industrial systems has been reported to be 0.005% in the United States, 0.37% in Europe, and between 0.5% and 5.6% in China”

      -From https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10706720/#:~:text=The presence of Salmonella in,3%2C15%2C16].

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        That’s not the number you’re looking for with “industrial systems” they mean keeping hens in batteries and that’s outlawed in the EU, has been since 2012 (though the actual phase-out took longer). So you’re probably looking at maybe Serbian, Belorussian, and Albanian stats.

        Overall the study you’ve cited is not the right one to look at as they’re comparing different methods of keeping chickens, it’s not focussed on hashing out regional differences much less the wash vs. don’t wash issue.

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          Fair enough (it was actually way more countries, because I found that the study they quoted quoted a study, so it included Spain, Portugal, others except the UK and Nordic countries), though the study I linked to actually found 2 cases in the “alternative” keeping of hens compared to zero in battery cages. Wasn’t statistically significant, but still the point is the washing and refrigeration of eggs greatly lowers the chance of salmonella risk. Animal welfare is sort of a separate issue, though at least it’s getting addressed in the EU.

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            It’s just not big enough of an issue to mandate universal vaccinating: Any salmonella are generally on the shell, not actually infecting the egg. At least in Germany only flocks >350 animals need to be vaccinated.

            Also it has to be said that European cuisine is actually quite risky when it comes to salmonella: Proper Tiramisu uses raw egg yolk, proper mousse au chocolat raw egg whites, and a carbonara might contain both semi-raw (depending on how you like it). But it’s also well-known that you use fresh eggs for those as the fresher the eggs the less bacteria there will be on there even if infected and it’s not like people keel over from a single bacterium. Also don’t feed those dishes to small kids or the elderly.

            German press reports that authorities say that bacteria loads (not just salmonella) are pretty much similar comparing conventional (that’s barn and free range) vs. organic (free range deluxe) eggs (9 vs. 6 vs. 4 hens per m2), with a nod towards organic eggs as those don’t come with bacteria resistant to antibiotics.