• ParabolicMotion@lemmy.worldOP
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      The trash bags don’t fit the can. I wouldn’t say I’m dumb. What was your ASVAB score, “bro”?

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        You’re buying the wrong bags. How are you this dense?

        Bags have sizes in gallons. Buy the right size for your can.

        Simple concept guy.

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          I’m sorry are we all gonna just gloss over the “what’s your ASVAB score bro” response?

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            I have no idea what the ASVAB is, so I’m just going to assume it’s s standardised trash bag fitting test that all US kids have to go through at some point.

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              The ASVAB is the placement test you take when entering the military. It shows which branch/position you’d be most likely to do well. Basically, a higher score gives you greater flexibility in where you end up; Exceptionally high scores will even have scouts for specific branches and positions reaching out to recruit you. For instance, maybe you took it for the military, but then get a call from the FBI asking if you’d be interested in working for them instead.

              Using it as a source to gauge their intelligence on how well they can fit a trash bag into a can? That means OP is either hilariously sarcastic, or hilariously dense and out of touch.

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                • that all high school kids (in my area) take before graduating (to give recruiters more ammo when they harass speak with the kids during gym class a few months later)
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                Bro got recruited by the military. Kinda says a lot about his “intelligence.”

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                  I knew some very intelligent individuals in the military. We were all enlisted and we all knew how to put a shit can liner in a shit can. And not one of us went around waving our ASVAB dick around.

                  Love a good old fashioned OP roast though.

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          Bro is buying the wrong sized bags, then complaining about how the bag companies are stupid. When someone points that out, they call them stupid.

          The internet is a magical place.

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    There are big rubber bands specifically meant to go on your trash bin to hold the bag in place, I bought mine from Walmart or Target I believe.

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    In my house we have slightly oversized trashbags, have the bag oriented the other way (so when you pull the bag out it does not get stuck*), make sure the drawstring is over the lip, and this depends on the design of your trash-can but just see the picture. Image link for non-Kbin.

    *= this is specific to a larger bag in a tapered container. If the orientation matches closely, lifting causes it to expand at the bottom when you lift so you’re only lifting the bag at first (also this allows it to get stuck when it’s overfilled). Rotated the other way it cannot expand fully until it is out of the container.

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      Yeah, I probably just need to accept that I have to buy bigger bags that are actually too big for the can.

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        I just checked, apparently we have a ~16 gallon can (15 7/8ths*) and use 33gal bags. It doesn’t seem that much bigger (bc volume) but an overfilled bag will still have room in it when removed (it’s useful for last-minute additions on garbage day).

        I don’t know if you need to go this far, but maybe it is why they still fit the can properly with the not-expected-fit orientation like I described to prevent overfilling. 30gal might work, I guess it seems there isn’t much choice here though (otherwise I’d say try 5-10gal/~20% higher rather than double).

        *= Rubbermaid 3541, “Slim Jim” not cheap for plastic but we’ve had it for years so I’m not sure if it was that expensive when it was purchased

    • ParabolicMotion@lemmy.worldOP
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      No, the bags reach the bottom of the can the edges of the bag don’t cling to the edges of the can.

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    I pull the drawstring tight around the the lip of the bin and then scrunch up the excess, and shove the inner bin into the outer shell. Works for me.

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    Right. I have gotten some complaints about this from the report feature so I’ll just say a couple of things.

    Firstly, everyone. If you think OP is being a little silly then I urge to perhaps try telling them nicely without calling them an idiot. We won’t to promote an atompsphere where people are encouraged to talk about their problems without being ridiculed. This isn’t the first time something like this happened.

    Secondly, OP. You also need to engage more constructively with these people as well. The way you are getting defensive and immediately bringing up your education does not help you. Also you post complaining about here has been removed. We don’t really want this instance to be a place where people complain about other parts of lemmy. That just leads to drama down the road.

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        Striker didn’t say that you have to engage, he said that when you do it should be more constructive. C’mon.

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        • Goes out of their way to post in a public forum.
        • Insists they have no need for a public forum.
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          84 upvotes from others who have experienced this problem, and Hefty now makes bags called “grippers”, which contain elastic to combat this problem. I thought it was funny. I didn’t realize other readers were going to attack me over how I put a 13 gallon bag into a 13 gallon garbage can. Everyone can post here. No one is obligated to interact with the commenters. Sorry you feel differently.

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      I love that you came here and I think everything you said is fair.

      I love OP’s response though, this whole thread is hilarious.

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    Those blue spots are part of the inner plastic ring that you can tie up yourself.

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        Try tying it before you put the bag in. It takes trial and error to know how much slack to leave, but it’ll allow you to get a tight fit once you get the length right.

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      Yeah, it might be a problem with the can, but I remember trash bags that had more elastic ties/handles in the early 2000’s. These bag handles don’t seem to be made of that material, so I can’t tie knots in the handles to secure the bags to the can.

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    I spent about seven years buying Dollar Tree bags, while trying to pay off debt (which I still have). I feel like this recent decision made no forward progress here.

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    I’m not even angry in any of my comments, and other commenters are trying to frame me as being angry at them. I’m disappointed in them for calling me names like “dumb”, or “s_it for brains”. Apparently, the mods don’t care. This community is really toxic, and I’ll be removing my post. The mods refuse to reprimand the people who are making personal attacks against my intelligence. Instead of addressing their comments, they removed my reply and sent me a message saying, “nuking it!” How immature they are.

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    UPDATE:

    My trash can is 13 gallons and so are the bags. Here is proof.

    I’d like an apology from those who called me dumb for “using the wrong size trash bags”, or “not knowing what size garbage can” I have. I have the correct size trash can and liners. I think the makers of trash bags should fix the design flaw and make the edge of the bag contain an elastic band. I don’t believe I should be verbally attacked for posting something that seems to be a common issue for many Lemmy readers. My post isn’t in the negatives here. Some others must be experiencing this same problem.

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    The solution is to get a better trash can that has a rim that locks the bag in place. It would be crazy to over engineer every single disposable bag when a $2 plastic rim works for any bag.

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    I recommend some clips. The kind used to hang laundry. I believe that trashcan comes with a swiveling lid not pictured here and if the bag is installed properly the lid will hold it in place. But if you don’t have the lid (they’re not made of a particularly durable material or to a durable design spec), the clips do work.

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      I did try using plastic clips that are meant to be used for hanging items on the fridge. They lost traction with the side of the can as soon as the can became half full of trash. I’ll try some laundry clips, if I can find any around the house. Thank you for your suggestion.

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    I don’t understand what’s happening in this picture. Why is the blue draw string not being used? Is the bag too short for the bin? Is that a laundry hamper? How would the groves for the lid work if a bag is in place?

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      The blue drawstrings don’t stretch, so I can’t tie a knot in them to make the bag stay in place. It’s just a frustrating design.

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        Has nothing to do with design. Buy the right sized bag and problem solved. Work an extra shift if you can’t afford the right sized bag.

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      If it’s anything like the drawstring bags I have tried, it’s flimsy and mostly for show - it barely even tightens the bag when you’re ready to tie it up and throw it out.

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      He’s buying too small bags for his can. You can see this by the fact that when the bag reaches the bottom properly, it barely even reaches to the top. But fitting bags would be able to wrap around it, prevent the bag from falling inside. He’s just being stupid.

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    No-fail kitchen garbage bag replacement.

    1. Buy high quality (not Walmart) plastic kitchen bin. Note bag size printed on giant, impossible to remove sticker.

    2. Buy proper bag size from name brand. You can spend a bit of money up front, or spend your valuable time later cleaning up garbage juice. Your call.

    3. Remove bag from roll.

    4. Open bag and scare the crap out of the dog by inflating the bag with swift, loud, jarring noises.

    5. Place bag in bin. DO NOT ATTACH YET.

    6. Starting at one corner, seal the bag around the edge while simultaneously reaching into the clean bag and forcing air out from between the bin and bag.

    7. Work your way around until entire inside of bin looks like a reverse condom.

    8. Good to go.

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      simultaneously reaching into the clean bag and forcing air out from between the bin and bag

      drill a couple small holes in the bottom of the bin – provides air escape when filling bag and full bag easily lifts out without lifting whole bin

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        I recently had to replace my kitchen bin and the new one came with the holes pre-drilled

        The future is here

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          You don’t even need to drill it in the bottom. Our can has a hole at the top just below the rim which works the same. The air can find its way out but it can’t do the 180 degree turn around the rim especially if the bag makes a good seal around the rim.

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      alternatively, get one without a draw string, and just cut or tear one section about an inch. Then, use the ‘bunny ears’ to tie off with whatever knot you want. Tuck the ends under.

      if you’re able to just stretch the back, it’s like to over-stretch and fail if it gets full. it’s best to use a slightly loose bag and tie it off.

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      Any European here who can elaborate for me how to perform steps 0 and 1? I don’t know where to search for bins with bag sizes assigned to them or for bags of specific sizes.

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        Pretty much everywhere I can buy a bin in the UK will tell me its capacity in litres as part of the product description (or on the label if you’re in a physical shop)

        Most bin liners you can get from the supermarket have the corresponding capacity written on their labels

        Most bins end up falling into a few common sizes, so you usually don’t have to try hard to find a match unless you get a weird bin

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          Sure, but I don’t think capacity is enough. You need to match dimensions of the opening and the height/width of the container as well. In my experience it’s impossible to match the bin dimensions to the bag dimensions.

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            Well if you want exact fitting bags to bins, I think companies like Brabantia do exactly that, but that comes at a bit of a premium in both the bin and then buying their bags

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      Step 6 is way easier if you do it in space. Can’t afford space? Go to the top of the tallest mountain (sorry Texas) it’s probably good enough.

      Edit: Missing apostrophe added to avoid catastrophe. Any other grammatical errors and misspellings left intact for added flair.

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      Extra steps if you don’t live like a savage and have a double-wall bin with lid, all fancy lever-operated and everything:

      1. Open lid
      2. Take inner bin out
      3. Do the bag dance as in previous comment
      4. Pull the new bag taught around the rim at the obvious places, that being recesses in the bin walls
      5. Lift the bin in, the bag will be caught securely between the walls of the inner and outer bin, even if it’s too big
      6. Close lid.
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      Just wanted to add, if you finish step 6 with a bit of excess bag collected on the outside of the bin fold it back flat against the outside of the bin and roll the top of the bag down over it a few times. Do it tightly and it holds fairly well without having to pull the drawstring until you take the bag out.