• Jeena@jemmy.jeena.net
        15·
        8 months ago

        Yeah something like the CX22 https://www.hetzner.com/cloud/ which is € 4.51 / month is enough for lemmy.

        What I do instead is I host a series of services on my VPS and I pay about 20 EUR/month

        • Lemmy
        • Mastodon
        • PeerTube
        • my ruby on rails website + blog
        • my old PHP website + blog
        • another old PHP blog
        • my sisters PHP website
        • my sisters static website
        • Firefox Sync server
        • my bands static website
        • a matrix server with some bridges
        • a syncthing instance
        • a TTRSS instance
        • another static website

        and I probably forgot some things.

        • ericatty@lemmy.ml
          1·
          8 months ago

          Love this! Did you start out on the Fediverse or did you start on another and then move to your own?

          I ask because I’ve been considering hosting my own for the family. I already have a server.

          The thing holding me back is I’ve gotten my Mastodon and Lemmy accounts really nice with content and it’s daunting to think of moving/remaking accounts.

      • farcaller@fstab.sh
        161·
        8 months ago

        Looking at the resource usage of mine, a tiny cheap VPS for $4/mo would be enough, sans the image store. But it’s not a hard requirement unless you expect to have lots of local communities posting pictures.

        Lemmy’s issue is that it’s non-trivial to deploy and oftentimes painful to upgrade.

        • cheddar@programming.dev
          2·
          8 months ago

          But it’s not a hard requirement unless you expect to have lots of local communities posting pictures.

          Doesn’t lemmy sync posts, comments, and pictures with other instances? I remember after a CP attack some instances manually turned it off in the code to avoid troubles, and also had to clear their storage.

          • farcaller@fstab.sh
            3·
            8 months ago

            It absolutely does. Think of lemmy like of email – your mail server has all the email you received.

        • Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works
          11·
          8 months ago

          Looking at the resource usage of mine, a tiny cheap VPS for $4/mo would be enough

          Not including the time cost to manage it.

    • snek_boi@lemmy.mlOP
      6·
      8 months ago

      You’ve got a good point: the showerthought kinda breaks down in some cases, like yours! I guess the showerthought applies to public instances such as lemmy.ml

  • Fizz@lemmy.nz
    24·
    8 months ago

    I did a 1 time donation to my instance and the devs that should cover more than a few years of me watching ads.

    It’s weird though because I really value the idea of supporting projects I like but I find it so hard to part with money when I am not forced. This does become easier as I become more financially stable.

    • AVengefulAxolotl@lemmy.world
      2·
      8 months ago

      To be honest with myself, I am kind of the same. For the lemmy devs and lemmy.world, there are 1€ / month tiers on patreon. Its not that much but at the very least its more than nothing.

    • blindbunny@lemmy.mlEnglish
      20·
      8 months ago

      I feel gross hording money at this point. I buy a lot of shit for my hobbies but I hate buying fast food and usually just buy two and give the second away as punishment for the sin.

      I’m getting weird in my old age.

  • Rentlar@lemmy.ca
    49·
    8 months ago

    It’s like a public library that lets you borrow and read books from other cities’ libraries!

  • haui@lemmy.giftedmc.com
    2·
    8 months ago

    I agree. Same as public libraries, someone pays for it, either through work or through money. So people should always donate to their instance if they are able to. Otherwise they are actively promoting the opposite: closed source, for profit, walled gardens.

  • SorteKanin@feddit.dk
    40·
    8 months ago

    Don’t know where I read it, but I also like this metaphorical comparison:

    Traditional social media is like a shop, except the customers are advertisers and you, as a user sit on the shelves, waiting to be bought. It’s made entirely for revenue and profit, everything else is secondary. The shop will gladly show you an advertiser that pays for your attention before showing you your parent’s vacation photos or the important post from that group you follow.

    A fediverse instance is like a community garden. Nobody is a product and nobody is buying anything for themselves. Instead, everyone grows the garden together. Some people took initiative and responsibility with running the garden (admins/mods) and others joined and shared the garden with them and supported the garden with funds and content.

    In the fediverse garden, there is no other point than talking amongst each other and the garden is connected to other gardens that work mostly with the same principles and the gardens “cross-polinate” each other with discussions and content and through that help each other grow even more.

      • boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net
        12·
        8 months ago

        Where i come from you can go there and read for free, but if you want to borrow stuff you need to have a card which is paid my an abo.

        And they will also get money by the city likely

        • ericatty@lemmy.ml
          15·
          8 months ago

          In my city/county, you get a free card if you can prove you live here (show something with your address) Our system will also do fundraisers to supplement the budget from taxes. We almost lost some libraries a gew years ago, but voters remade the local government and they are safer now.

        • lud@lemm.ee
          10·
          8 months ago

          That’s sucks.

          In my country I’m pretty sure library cards are always free. The card has to be collected in person though.

    • itsmect@monero.town
      3·
      8 months ago

      It’s not even expensive. A single euro monthly per user is more then enough to keep instances running

      • boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net
        4·
        8 months ago

        The problem is that micro-payments are a pain in the ass. On Liberapay I often pay people 2 years in advance which is then pretty much

        • itsmect@monero.town
          2·
          8 months ago

          I’m not suggesting to pay one euro each month, I’m suggesting that you treat your lemmy instance as a 12 euro per year subscription. Compared to literally every other service it is basically free.

  • snek_boi@lemmy.mlOP
    921·
    8 months ago
    1. Of course, people should donate to make Lemmy sustainable.
    2. I recognize that this is true of any website that is not enshitified or, more broadly, is designed to maximize profits. Websites made with libre software are the public libraries of the internet!
  • Fugtig Fisk@feddit.dk
    6·
    8 months ago

    Hear me out. Are we sure that European admins can’t ask for national or European funds to run a Lemmy instances?