It’s on your hands to help make this place mor normal. We need an influx of regular people who don’t care about government garbage to create normal posts. At some point, their comments and posts will drown the left wingers and turn this place into a cat meme filled place that will be more enjoyable to participate in
I’m not sure that “got yelled at” is a great metric. On L.W., it probably depends on the community a bit but it’s not likely they’re getting yelled at by a mod, or having their post/comment deleted, right? No one’s going to ban their account there.
In terms of users – except for the bad places – everywhere is “here.” You can block people that are being exceptionally dickish too.
And, real talk, you can say “it’s a beautiful day today” and there’ll be two dildos that downvote you and maybe someone that’s like “not everywhere!!!” Don’t let it get ya down.
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You’d have to show who specifically was yelling. You see everyone from all instances they’re federated with. They might not have even been from Lemmy.world.
Edit: Case in point, I’m from programming.dev
If you think .world is non-normie left-of-centre (or whatever phrase you want to use) then you gonna be confused and surprised by what you’ll find on some of the other instances…
I mean, it’s probably best to stay out of political subs at that point. Reddit’s pretty far left of… mainstream US media, and yeah lemmy is fairly left of reddit.
But to be honest, just politics in social media will always be arguing. You aren’t likely to find a political group that perfectly lines up with exactly where you are.
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Lemmy world is basically still Reddit. so that one
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It’s a well known fact that .world admins have wet dreams at night about spez seeing what good boys they’ve been and rewarding them by making them reddit admins and letting them suckle his little pigboy twig.
we gotta mf saying press x to doubt, its reddit
Lol @ “who volunteered for the Democrats”. Ain’t that a microcosm of every American politico (especially Democrats) ignorant of actual political theory.
Imagine getting upset that someone accurately described “leftism” to you. I can only imagine it’s major cognitive dissonance after a lifetime of consuming mainstream political media calling liberalism “leftist” and pushing the overton window right.
Lemmy.world already is the “normie” instance catering to liberalism. Your friend either ran into the more progressive parts of that instance or an actual leftist from a federated one. Either way, they got told an accurate take.
Anyway, can we please stop all the attempts to make this place comfortable for conservative and right wing views in the name of “growth”? Have y’all actually been on a default subreddit in the last 15 years? Would that be worth it here?
Your last point is what really resonates with me. I’ll take Marxist-Lenninists all day over stupid right wingers who created this whole fucking mess. At the very least, the former read books. The latter only know how to kiss ass.
Im not sure all the Marxist read books but theor heart tends to be in a better place
Hey you’re doing the thing
Good
what thing?
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Nah, I just find amusement in someone who ostensibly considers themselves political (volunteers for the Dems!) being affronted when accurately told that being leftist entails more than what talk about on NPR and NYT. Even the Wikipedia summary of leftism states the modern left is anti-capitalist and liberalism is “center-left” at best. It’s just an example of the allowed spectrum of opinion and an example of how much the politico class ignores political theory outside that spectrum.
And we push back on it because allowing the right wing, mainstream media, and liberal parties to define liberalism as the left is exactly what helps push the Overton window to the right.
Instead of running away when confronted with that fact and creating a space for centrists to feel more comfortable, maybe y’all could listen instead.
Might take a look at the instance I’m on. Lemmy.sdf.org. It’s pretty chill, and SDF has been doing the social media thing since the 80’s without much issue. Started as a dial up BBS devoted to anime back in the day. Leans anime, music/art generally and computers. Supported via donations.
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Well, I’ve always said that Communick is not meant to be an instance focused on any particular group, so perhaps it could count as “normie” for her?
Kind of a silly question, but asked honestly: How much do you think the name “communick” matters when trying to convince “normies” to try it out? Would they see that, read it as a play on “Communist”, and assume it’s only for extremists or whatever?
You are the first that makes this association, at least that I know of.
Communick is rooted on “Communication”, “nickname” and “unique”: because the original idea was that people that sign up to the service get an unique username across all instances…
To my American eyes and English speaking self, I assumed it was associated with communism. (I don’t think it’s bad or anything.)
I’m finding it incredibly ironic. Mine is the only instance that is unashamedly for-profit and access is only for paying customers…
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Sorry, it wasn’t clear to me. Are you saying that your first association of the name Communick is with “Communism”?
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Yep me too
I’m making a poll on Mastodon to see if it’s a matter of sample bias.
Add me to the list. Not helped by the fact that “-ik” is a common russian suffix.
Honestly, I got also the impression that Communick was about communism, not communication. I just never felt I needed to state it anywhere.
Looks like I need to improve the marketing and messaging…
See that “grayed out” SIP part? That’s what was meant to be my first actual service, but I can not afford to offer SIP until I consistently hit ~$1000/month in revenue.
i tought that was lemmy.world
it resembles early reddit a lot.
I wanna say there’s Hilarious Chaos which is right wing and a lil more normie. This instance is pretty good too.
"I just got yelled at because I can’t be Left wing unless I want to destroy capitalism?
Based
Also shows a fundamental misunderstanding of the difference between leftist and left wing from someone but this is America dammit it’s the culture
I had hoped your question would yield some informative responses because as a normie I am struggling to find a more centrist space here. Every community from technology to memes is wall to wall “DEA TRUMP HITLER!?” I get it, I don’t like him, but surely there are other things to discuss besides that? The users are obsessed with American politics and as a non-American it’s exhausting and I think a little pathetic. Do they have nothing else going on in their lives?
The responses confirmed that the users don’t want opposing opinion and instead really, REALLY want an echo chamber. Message received.
While I do agree that going on day 4 of Musks nazi salute is beating the dead horse, but a “centrist” space is hardly the solution. Even centrists should dunk on Trump and the fascist party. The issue is that politics bleeds into all the popular communities regardless of the community. We just need more non-political communities (or a harder non-political stance in non-political communities).
Wanting a centrist space, especially one that fits the American centrism, is wanting an echo chamber where you don’t get the culture shock of discovering that you’re not actually leftist.
Yeah, there needs to be a Lemmy.norm
Your friend is confused. Leftism is inherently anti-capitalist so she can’t be a leftist unless she wants to ditch capitalism.
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In any civilised society American “Democrats” are considered far right (Biden et al) to centre right (Sanders).
Republicans are self admitted fascist lunatics.
Don’t expect American standards when you get out of your fascist echo chamber.
Americans do not get their own definition for philosophies.
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I don’t think you understand leftism. Economic leftism (Socialism, Marxism, Communism) is inherently anti capitalist. The social spectrum of left and right is pointless. I am not necessarily a Liberal but I would define myself as a leftist. I do not consider liberals to be inherently leftists.
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Your analogy is really off the point. “Work” doesn’t just mean “the product of force and displacement”, it’s a word in the English language with many different meanings, most being listed out in the picture below.
But the left-right political spectrum doesn’t have different definitions as it is a term, with hierarchical ideologies being considered “right”, non-hierarchical ideologies being considered “left”, and milder ideological positions being considered “center”. Even if the populace of one nation uses the terms to refer to ruling and opposing parties, it doesn’t change the inherent definitions of them.
False. The Liberals are generally centre-right even within Canada. Your compass is off.
Your Newtonian physics argument is nonsensical and frankly rude.
No, it isn’t. Unless you are Eurocentric and ignore most nationsliberalism is where the left starts though liberalism isn’t “leftist”. The right is authoritarianism. This is true all around the world.
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Germany, France
with Democrats on the left
Do keep in mind the most left leaning democrat you can think of would be a center-right candidate in my country. It’s unfortunate that indeed you can only work with what you got, but don’t be surprised when others cringe at the thought of calling your democratic party leftist.
I Just sort by all anyway
